[NEWS] nasa eyes urstar fish for missions in 2030s

[thegoodperry]

That's the thing you're missing here. These technologies sprout as a byproduct of sending probes to do scientific research. If you aren't sending probes to do scientific research, then you aren't getting spin-off technologies. It's not a waste.

So 3d printed food was a space anomaly that a probe discovered on some distant planet?

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[Red Spy]

WW2 brought several new technologies, including nuclear power and aircraft technology, but that doesn't mean that the war was a good thing.

haha yeah what did the national socialists ever do

[SeventhSandwich]

So 3d printed food was a space anomaly that a probe discovered on some distant planet?

No but all the software, components, instrumentation, and manufacturing techniques were a result of making a probe. Those patents translate into billion dollar industries fam

[thegoodperry]

but why don't we just skip the 'making of the probe' part and focus on what matters, which is the software, components, instrumentation, and manufacturing techniques

this way you can invest in technologies without spending billions on rocket fuel and building a whole probe

[Deus Ex]

but why don't we just skip the 'making of the probe' part and focus on what matters, which is the software, components, instrumentation, and manufacturing techniques

this way you can invest in technologies without spending billions on rocket fuel and building a whole probe

How would you advance technologies without finding out what breaks when you send it into space

[Aide33]

but why don't we just skip the 'making of the probe' part and focus on what matters, which is the software, components, instrumentation, and manufacturing techniques

this way you can invest in technologies without spending billions on rocket fuel and building a whole probe

>billions or rocket fuel

you have no idea what the forget you are talking about

NASA has a yearly budget of 18 billion dollars, this is absolutely MINISCULE compared to any other government program

why you want to cut one of the most fruitful research and development organisations ever is beyond me

by what you are saying you clearly lack any critical thinking or engineering experience at all, you have no say on the subject
 

[beachbum111111]

Perry is just butthurt because Annoying Orange is putting extra funding into space exploration so it must be bad

[SeventhSandwich]

but why don't we just skip the 'making of the probe' part and focus on what matters, which is the software, components, instrumentation, and manufacturing techniques

Because it's impossible. You don't know how a technology can be used in other applications unless it already exists. That's effectively like saying, "instead of wasting money researching how cancer works, why don't we research cures and drugs?" The answer being, of course, you have no idea where to start without research.

You might not be personally interested in the scientific papers resulting from space probes, which is totally okay. But the reason why NASA is such a fantastic investment is because they work on problems that humanity has never attempted to solve before, and in the process they create technologies with diverse usages outside of space technology. But that doesn't change the fact that the sole, ultimate reason why they made that tech to begin with is because they wanted to send a probe to research a planet. That's why you can't separate space research from NASA spinoffs. The esoteric and ambitious nature of the problems they solve is the reason they're so innovative. Does that make sense?

[Aide33]

Because it's impossible. You don't know how a technology can be used in other applications unless it already exists. That's effectively like saying, "instead of wasting money researching how cancer works, why don't we research cures and drugs?" The answer being, of course, you have no idea where to start without research.

You might not be personally interested in the scientific papers resulting from space probes, which is totally okay. But the reason why NASA is such a fantastic investment is because they work on problems that humanity has never attempted to solve before, and in the process they create technologies with diverse usages outside of space technology. But that doesn't change the fact that the sole, ultimate reason why they made that tech to begin with is because they wanted to send a probe to research a planet. That's why you can't separate space research from NASA spinoffs. The esoteric and ambitious nature of the problems they solve is the reason they're so innovative. Does that make sense?

To put this in perspective: "As of 2016, there were over 1,920 Spinoff products in the database dating back to 1976."
  - Wikipedia

Every single one of those technologies are UNIQUE.

The entirety of the NASA budget since the 1960's summed up is less than the 850 billion dollar bank bailout in 2008.

Space travel has already revolutionised our lives weather you like it or not, even if you don't notice and it is distinctly cheaper than waging a war or any other kind of technological boom. I actually can't believe he compared it with WW2 in any way shape or form, since space travel has excelled showing the good of mankind. Almost all space ventures are international collaborations, or if I quote JFK:

"There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet. Its hazards are hostile to us all. Its conquest deserves the best of all mankind, and its opportunity for peaceful cooperation may never come again."

[thegoodperry]

Perry is just butthurt because Annoying Orange is putting extra funding into space exploration so it must be bad

I'm just mad because the earth is flat and nasa doesn't exist

[Punished Toxicology]

LOL NASA IS GAY

[Planr]

I wish we had better spacegoing technology so we could actually travel there ourselves and build space stations n stuff. Would be awesome.

What Seventh tapped on is important. While we may not be able to physically go to Neptune and Urstar fish right now ourselves, sending probes there will help give us preliminary data that gives us a better understanding of what they are like so we can not only figure out what's there that we could benefit from resource and location-wise, but what we will need to bring with us to be ready for the journey there some day.

[Nonnel]

maybe we could reallocate some of the ridiculous military fund to research

[SeventhSandwich]

I wish we had better spacegoing technology so we could actually travel there ourselves and build space stations n stuff. Would be awesome.

It's on the horizon. Strictly speaking, sending people to Mars is pretty much a scientific necessity if we want to really know the planet's history and whether there is/has been life there. Rovers are great and all, but one person on the planet could do an equivalent amount of science in probably a month's time.

I'm waiting for the day when international organizations make it such that people don't feel the need to spend hundreds of billions on defense anymore, so we can invest that money into stuff like NASA. If we were to double their budget right now, we'd probably have a complete road map for a Mars mission already laid out.

maybe we could reallocate some of the ridiculous military fund to research

It's a double-edged sword. Military spending does produce spin-off technologies in the same way that NASA does. It's just that nothing really gets the jingoistic fever of an overweight congressman going more than a nice missile or aircraft carrier. Same can't be said about better space tech :(

[Planr]

I'm only interested in science as far as it allows us to get cool stuff and have cool homes in cool places.

It's a double-edged sword. Military spending does produce spin-off technologies in the same way that NASA does. It's just that nothing really gets the jingoistic fever of an overweight congressman going more than a nice missile or aircraft carrier. Same can't be said about better space tech :(

I'm willing to bet that had we not undergone the rapid technological advancements that came as a side effect of World War II, our current level of technology would be on par with the 1970s or 1980s.