alright, I can understand your frustrations with people on this forum but these two posts are filled with you lashing out at phantos and willcp
no one is going to want to argue or take a guy who lashes out so suddenly seriously, sorry to say. which is why everyone so far thinks you absolutely cannot be for real right now
Thanks for being a reasonable person and actually discussing things. My original post was using Phanto as an example of labeling him as "Alt-Left" in an attempt to discredit his ideas. Maybe my aggression towards Phanto afterwards was unwarranted but Willco has chosen to mock me twice without giving an actual response and fully deserves aggression from me.
how long have you been looking at these forums? are we not talking generally here and outside this topic? because if we are then this is why no one argues tony's points. the reputation he has made for himself in those past threads with trolling and posting stupid stuff, and then having his followers come in and basically threaten the person arguing with them to back down and let tony troll will put people off and it does put people off, at this point it's not surprising no one wants to argue tony because no one can have as stupid of an opinion as this guy, he has to be trolling. it isn't surprising when less and less people on this forum argue a trolls bullstuff because it's expending energy for nothing; why should I type up a 1000 word long post towards lord tony if it isn't going to convince him anything worth stuff? this is exactly what happens when you do it, and now you're asking yourself why no one wants to argue any true "points" against tony. the fact of the matter is we are, and they're in the forum of "this drama is bullstuff because dramaing someone over political opinions is dumb". are you saying that's not valid reason to argue against tony or is that still dismissing his opinion? because I see nothing left to argue there
again, not talking about this thread and quite frankly I barely care if he responds to you, but I don't agree with that on tony. he has already made a reputation for himself of being a troll who will still dismiss your entire argument with dishonest points, and I'm like a loving broken record here; but no one is going to want to waste their time and energy seriously refuting anymore points this guy has if they're all just stupid. they are not going to be "honest" with someone who isn't honest themselves
I'm aware of Tony and his follower's antics outside of this thread in general, but like I said my argument wasn't with tony or his followers and they're not here attacking me so I don't see why Tony should be discredited here for things his followers do in other threads on their own accord (unless if Tony is telling them directly to defend him or something which would be a silly turn of events). If people don't want to argue true points to Tony then that's their decision, but to disagree with me using snarky responses and disbelief and not even give a reason or explanation as to why they think that is disgusting to me. I've been flat with how I felt and to be dismissed because I don't fall in line with people who can't be bothered to respond fairly to people like Tony shows that people are just as prone to ignore other people's ideas no matter who it is or what they've done in the past. "How dare he say something that could be construed as defending Tony!" Even though I'm not loving defending his argument but instead defend my reasoning to give a legitimate response.
again, not talking about this thread and quite frankly I barely care if he responds to you, but I don't agree with that on tony. he has already made a reputation for himself of being a troll who will still dismiss your entire argument with dishonest points, and I'm like a loving broken record here; but no one is going to want to waste their time and energy seriously refuting anymore points this guy has if they're all just stupid. they are not going to be "honest" with someone who isn't honest themselves
I meant that until he responds to me my argument was not with him. I'm not interested in being "noticed" by him if that's the vibe you were getting. To me, giving dishonest responses to a dishonest person is just being a dishonest person in the end.
I'm gonna bite the bullet here because tony is doing this stuff too; yeah, I agree, this forum and its ability to retain stupid non-interesting political discussions that are always throwing insults back and fourth is quite frankly sickening. it's why I barely ever get involved in politics on here because it's basically all memes and insults, one side gangs up and dismisses the opinions of others, etc. and it's terrible
I'm not here to insult you, I'm just telling you as respectfully as possible why arguing with tony is fruitless to most people for reasons other than what the various groups on this forum might tell you
I understand you're not here to insult me, I fully respect you for choosing to actually discuss rather than spew the garbage that the others have been doing so far. And I'll say it again, I'm not arguing with Tony, I'm arguing for giving people like Tony a fair response despite them being dishonest. If you're not going to respond legitimately, why even bother talking to him to begin with? It's just more useless stuffposting in the end.
congratulations, you completely ignored the moral of the fable
You completely ignored what I said after the fact; deciding whether or not looking into his stuff further is your choice alone.
