Why is VOIP so stuff?

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Why does skype/hangouts fail so much?

PEBKAC
3 (2.3%)
MS/Google Incompetence
19 (14.5%)
MS/Google Sabotage
4 (3.1%)
ISP Sabotage
21 (16%)
Globalists turning the frogs gay
84 (64.1%)

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Tezuni 2.0

July 13, 2017, 09:03:26 PM

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PhantOS

July 13, 2017, 09:05:31 PM
because of lag

Badspot

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July 13, 2017, 09:19:08 PM
Quote from: Steve5451² on July 11, 2017, 10:37:54 AM
I don't think it's a conspiracy because I used to host a private teamspeak with a VPS and it had perfect quality without drops.

discord is pretty good too, especially considering it's a free service with no ads.

My conspiracy theory is that telecoms are sabotaging internet voice communication to keep their aging phone service relevant.  A private teamspeak server doesn't really replace your phone, where skype and hangouts do, so your teamspeak server is not a target.

Conan

July 13, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
to add on to this conspiracy theory: they are trying to subvert net neutrality as well so that we use computers and mobile phones less often. this will result in less electricity consumed, which means not as many nonrenewable sources that generate electricity will be consumed. on top of that people wouldnt be exposed to the immorality of the net as much and lead more civilized lives

its for the good of the Earth, and thus all of us as well, so its okay. just let it happen guys

Juncoph

July 14, 2017, 12:52:22 AM
if net neutrality dies then they wouldn't even have to pretend

Tezuni 2.0

July 14, 2017, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: Badspot on July 13, 2017, 09:19:08 PM
My conspiracy theory is that telecoms are sabotaging internet voice communication to keep their aging phone service relevant.  A private teamspeak server doesn't really replace your phone, where skype and hangouts do, so your teamspeak server is not a target.
Yep every single one of the world's ISP CEOs meetup annually in a dimly lit conference room; only their silhouettes visible, among the shroud of darkness and swirling cigar smoke.

I'd be more inclined to think the tall gray alien civilization are actively trolling our VOIP via intermittent electromagnetic interference bursts, just for the lolz.
Once again, guys - it's aliens.  First they made the frogs gay by poisoning our water, now they're screwing with our VOIP.   :cookieMonster:

Metario

July 14, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Tezuni 2.0 on July 14, 2017, 09:45:32 PM
Yep every single one of the world's ISP CEOs meetup annually in a dimly lit conference room; only their silhouettes visible, among the shroud of darkness and swirling cigar smoke.

I'd be more inclined to think the tall gray alien civilization are actively trolling our VOIP via intermittent electromagnetic interference bursts, just for the lolz.
Once again, guys - it's aliens.  First they made the frogs gay by poisoning our water, now they're screwing with our VOIP.   :cookieMonster:
It's called Wall Street

Badspot

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July 15, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
Excerpts from a net neutrality timeline that I saved:

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. http://archive.is/18mZI

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://archive.is/8ok3S

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

Bisjac

July 15, 2017, 04:23:01 PM
isps should be broken up into specific services only.

Dont be trying to extort extra for THEIR phone services and THEIR television, just because you are already on THEIR internet already.

Legodude77

July 15, 2017, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: Conan on July 13, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
to add on to this conspiracy theory: they are trying to subvert net neutrality as well so that we use computers and mobile phones less often. this will result in less electricity consumed, which means not as many nonrenewable sources that generate electricity will be consumed. on top of that people wouldnt be exposed to the immorality of the net as much and lead more civilized lives

its for the good of the Earth, and thus all of us as well, so its okay. just let it happen guys
Nah environmentalists don't control the earth. Those that do don't care about how much pollution goes into the ground, oceans, and air. They'll just relax until they literally can't breath anymore and then they'll just relax in air-filtered sealed complexes.

Tezuni 2.0

July 17, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
Quote from: Badspot on July 15, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
Excerpts from a net neutrality timeline that I saved:

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. http://archive.is/18mZI

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://archive.is/8ok3S

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality


so a few isolated attempts by ISPs to gouge money means there's a global ISP collusion to frustrate customers into their voice services?
or, ya know, maybe it's far more likely that the shoddy architecture of the internet & computing in general are the real factors

Ipquarx

July 17, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Tezuni 2.0 on July 17, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
so a few isolated attempts by ISPs to gouge money means there's a global ISP collusion to frustrate customers into their voice services?
or, ya know, maybe it's far more likely that the shoddy architecture of the internet & computing in general are the real factors

Quote from: Some Dude on Reddit
    MADISON RIVER: In 2005, North Carolina ISP Madison River Communications blocked the voice-over-internet protocol (VOIP) service Vonage. Vonage filed a complaint with the FCC after receiving a slew of customer complaints. The FCC stepped in to sanction Madison River and prevent further blocking, but it lacks the authority to stop this kind of abuse today.

    COMCAST: In 2005, the nation’s largest ISP, Comcast, began secretly blocking peer-to-peer technologies that its customers were using over its network. Users of services like BitTorrent and Gnutella were unable to connect to these services. 2007 investigations from the Associated Press, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others confirmed that Comcast was indeed blocking or slowing file-sharing applications without disclosing this fact to its customers.

    TELUS: In 2005, Canada’s second-largest telecommunications company, Telus, began blocking access to a server that hosted a website supporting a labor strike against the company. Researchers at Harvard and the University of Toronto found that this action resulted in Telus blocking an additional 766 unrelated sites.

    AT&T: From 2007–2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009.

    WINDSTREAM: In 2010, Windstream Communications, a DSL provider with more than 1 million customers at the time, copped to hijacking user-search queries made using the Google toolbar within Firefox. Users who believed they had set the browser to the search engine of their choice were redirected to Windstream’s own search portal and results.

    MetroPCS: In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top-five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s 2010 open internet ruling, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow the company to continue its anti-consumer practices.

    PAXFIRE: In 2011, the Electronic Frontier Foundation found that several small ISPs were redirecting search queries via the vendor Paxfire. The ISPs identified in the initial Electronic Frontier Foundation report included Cavalier, Cogent, Frontier, Fuse, DirecPC, RCN and Wide Open West. Paxfire would intercept a person’s search request at Bing and Yahoo and redirect it to another page. By skipping over the search service’s results, the participating ISPs would collect referral fees for delivering users to select websites.

    AT&T, SPRINT and VERIZON: From 2011–2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service called CIA, which all three companies had a stake in developing.

    EUROPE: A 2012 report from the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications found that violations of Net Neutrality affected at least one in five users in Europe. The report found that blocked or slowed connections to services like VOIP, peer-to-peer technologies, gaming applications and email were commonplace.

    VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction.

    AT&T: In 2012, AT&T announced that it would disable the FaceTime video-calling app on its customers’ iPhones unless they subscribed to a more expensive text-and-voice plan. AT&T had one goal in mind: separating customers from more of their money by blocking alternatives to AT&T’s own products.

    VERIZON: During oral arguments in Verizon v. FCC in 2013, judges asked whether the phone giant would favor some preferred services, content or sites over others if the court overruled the agency’s existing open internet rules. Verizon counsel Helgi Walker had this to say: “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.” Walker’s admission might have gone unnoticed had she not repeated it on at least five separate occasions during arguments.

A more expanded list of Net Neutrality violations.

Trogtor

July 17, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Ipquarx on July 17, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
A more expanded list of Net Neutrality violations.
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   AT&T, SPRINT and VERIZON: From 2011–2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service called CIA, which all three companies had a stake in developing.

we must stop CIA

Juncoph

July 17, 2017, 11:22:07 PM
don't forget that the list is only compiling the times when they got caught doing it

Mr Unicode

August 09, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
This really explains a lot about how when I used skype the quality was always horrible, voices clipped out and I was dropped from calls.

I have also heard tales like this where people have talked about stuff using Skype and had advertisements for that pop up later on, I mean companies sell your phone number to telemarketers so its not much of a stretch
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