[Real News] Obamacare Repeal Fails

[Tactical Nuke]

daily reminder that the implementation of Obamacare made more people lose coverage than repealing Obamacare would

you are hoping for poor people to die so you can save money on taxes. there is no way around that fact. it's selfish.

why aren't you banned yet

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[Pecon]

imo saying that if obamacare is repealed a massive chunk of the population will drop dead is loving stupid

about 13-14 million people have insurance through the ACA, and would not otherwise have insurance. That's a lot of people. Can you guess approximately how many of those 13-14 million people have cancer, HIV, heart disease, diabetes, or any other deadly condition that can only be treated through regular doses of medicine? All those people would have to start paying for the medicine they need to stay alive out of pocket; and given typical drug prices you can probably see why a huge number of them would literally die as a result of losing insurance.

[Red Spy]

you are hoping for poor people to die so you can save money on taxes. there is no way around that fact. it's selfish.

what the absolute forget is wrong with you

[HellHound]

one step to avoid communism has failed. this is a dark day in American history

[Acerblock]

daily reminder that the implementation of Obamacare made more people lose coverage than repealing Obamacare would

why aren't you banned yet

Misleading.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/millions-lost-insurance/

[McZealot]

Oh dude can you loving not? No one is HOPING for people to die, what we're hoping for is to not get taxed up the ass to pay for other people's health conditions. It's not rocket science. If they die as a result of us paying taxes that's not our fault.

You aren't hoping for them to die--you're just going to let them die because you don't care about their lives. What's the difference? You're sitting back and letting people suffer and die and go bankrupt because you'd save a minuscule amount of money. That's so much better dude. You should be proud.

I know you don't give a stuff about our country, but most people here do. If you don't want to pay taxes, move to a country where you don't have to.

why aren't you banned yet

You can't refute basic arguments against your selfish bullstuff so you resort to posts like these. You aren't fooling anyone, dude.

what the absolute forget is wrong with you

Sorry, I know those facts hurt. Nobody is impressed with you right now.

[otto-san]

have numbers been run about the outlook on the actual health impact of a repeal? obviously in theory, millions of people losing health insurance is an objectively bad thing for them, and obviously it makes sense that if they rely on insurance to afford critical treatments, they'll experience injury, lower quality of life, or death, but it would probably be much easier to talk around actual figures here

[IkeTheGeneric]

Stop acting like people are just gonna suddenly DIE if Obamacare get's repealed, that's not how reality works..

I don't know, I said in another thread that if I lost my medical benefits I wouldn't be able to afford insulin every month despite having a pretty alright job. My job doesn't offer healthcare so I get my benefits from ACA and a straight repeal or anything that would make me lose coverage meant it would be significantly harder to get insulin.

Without insurance I'd be shelling out ~$410 a month for enough to last a month. Because I don't have to pay the full $410, I can afford to have a good diet and exercising plan to where a whole vial will last me a full month. Once I start paying that $410, I suddenly don't have money for a good diet and I'll need more insulin per month, meaning I have to pay even more monthly, which means I have even less money for food and other bills and...

Long story short, My life and a LOT of other people's lives would be needlessly complicated by a half-assed repeal and replace plan. The GOP had a handful of years to fine-tune a plan and they forgeted it up because they're incompetent the whole way down. You and Red Spy are completely full of stuff.

[PhantOS]

Exactly this. Stop acting like people are just gonna suddenly DIE if Obamacare get's repealed, that's not how reality works.

well if i lose coverage i'm going to have to pay an extra $260 every month out of my would-be savings just so i can breathe without agony. i dont have that kind of money

[IkeTheGeneric]

i dont have that kind of money

This is literally it. I have to balance my health, my family's lifestyle, my car insurance payments, rent and utilities, groceries and any other bills that get tossed onto the pile when something goes wrong. I'm blessed to have the coverage to afford insulin because without it, I couldn't afford staying healthy and since I'm the breadwinner in the household, that's a road that will lead to ruin.

[HellHound]

daily reminder that poor people died in the streets for thousands of years without anybody batting an eye

[PhantOS]

daily reminder that poor people died in the streets for thousands of years without anybody batting an eye

daily reminder that children were allowed to prostitute for thousands of years without anybody batting an eye. also slavery. also burning scientists

i dont think the argument of 'its been this way for a thousand years and nobody cared' is really valid considering that almost everybody cared and that's why it was eventually stopped

[Tactical Nuke]

You can't refute basic arguments against your selfish bullstuff so you resort to posts like these. You aren't fooling anyone, dude.

okay if you want your verbal horsestuff to be taken seriously then you should know that conservatives on average give WAY MORE to charity than any other party, so your pathetic loving idealized "selfish conservatives" FANTASY can go shrivel up with the rest of your intelligence

Sorry, I know those facts hurt. Nobody is impressed with you right now.

jesus forgetchrist can you stop being such a loving lobotomite

[PhantOS]

okay if you want your verbal horsestuff to be taken seriously then you should know that conservatives on average give WAY MORE to charity than any other party, so your pathetic loving idealized "selfish conservatives" FANTASY can go shrivel up with the rest of your intelligence

i think the fact that the conservative party donates more in raw than other parties doesn't really equalize the fact that destroying a social security asset is a bit selfish

conservatives on average give WAY MORE to charity than any other party

can we also get a 'poorer liberals donate more than wealthy conservatives'

[Acerblock]

okay if you want your verbal horsestuff to be taken seriously then you should know that conservatives on average give WAY MORE to charity than any other party, so your pathetic loving idealized "selfish conservatives" FANTASY can go shrivel up with the rest of your intelligence

jesus forgetchrist can you stop being such a loving lobotomite

Uhhhh, what? To you saying liberals aren't as charitable:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033

At the individual level, the large bivariate relationship between giving and conservatism vanishes after adjusting for differences in income and religiosity. At the state level, we find no evidence of a relationship between charitable giving and Republican presidential voteshare.