Author Topic: YouTube initiating new policies that could be disastrous for just about everyone (Read 4936 times)

Tactical Nuke · August 01, 2017, 07:09:58 PM

Metokur is the man for informing me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ8RIAHx5TI&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=G7Tpdsqg2tNFl2F5-6

Quote from: Sources

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-petersons-youtube-account-locked-during-b/

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/01/youtube-isolate-offensive-videos/

long story short

Jordan Peterson, famous Toronto professor and Kermit the Frog incarnate, got not only access to his YouTube account blocked off, but his GMail shut down
no explanation was given whatsoever for the removal and when he tried to appeal the "claim" he got denied
both are back as they once were but Peterson is still confused as to what happened as he hasn't heard anything informative from Google

here's what stuff gets scary

Quote from: Engadget

For videos that contain "controversial religious or supremacist content" but don't violate any of YouTube's policies, they'll now be placed in a "limited state." YouTube said, "The videos will remain on YouTube behind an interstitial, won't be recommended, won't be monetized, and won't have key features including comments, suggested videos, and likes." It says that the limited state will start being applied to desktop versions in the coming weeks and will hit mobile versions shortly thereafter.

YouTube said that these changes are just the beginning and it will be sharing more about its work in the months ahead. "Altogether, we have taken significant steps over the last month in our fight against online terrorism. But this is not the end. We know there is always more work to be done," it said.

holy stuff

/discuss

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Red Spy · August 01, 2017, 07:11:28 PM

online terrorism holy forget

Conan · August 01, 2017, 07:13:52 PM

he has it back, my guess is it probably was a bad match by whatever ai system they have filtering the videos n stuff

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19225/censorship-jordan-peterson-claims-youtube-now-ben-shapiro

the system likely exists to filter out CIA things and actual extremist stuff and prevent straight gore from hitting the front page, and since its driven by ai it probably will forget up here and there. i'm not an expert on this though

Tactical Nuke · August 01, 2017, 07:22:50 PM

YouTube and Google, in general, tend to be

uh

liberal in their deciding what is and isn't controversial, as shown by the adpocalypse

this time it's serious because if you experience what Peterson did and you aren't a big person like he is, you won't have your GMail to appeal to Google with, so you're basically forgeted

Electrk. · August 01, 2017, 07:27:18 PM

can we have an anti-trust lawsuit on google already? it's long overdue

the EU already did it over there; it should be our turn now

Khaz · August 01, 2017, 07:29:33 PM

this is loving ridiculous lmao

Conan · August 01, 2017, 07:30:26 PM

Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 01, 2017, 07:22:50 PM

YouTube and Google, in general, tend to be

uh

liberal in their deciding what is and isn't controversial, as shown by the adpocalypse

this time it's serious because if you experience what Peterson did and you aren't a big person like he is, you won't have your GMail to appeal to Google with, so you're basically forgeted

your ideas and opinions are invalidated by that terrible pun google is our saint and savior it can do no harm

PhantOS · August 01, 2017, 07:32:16 PM

Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 01, 2017, 07:22:50 PM

YouTube and Google, in general, tend to be

uh

liberal in their deciding what is and isn't controversial, as shown by the adpocalypse

the adpocalypse wasn't youtube's fault. you have to make some sacrifices when your only source of revenue is complaining that its ads are being associated with controversial videos

Verification · August 01, 2017, 07:34:48 PM

This is getting insane at this point. Why not just let companies delete videos with non family friendly content in them? Why not put every video with a non-liberal political opinion into the limited state?

Like, this is seriously worrying. What will happen to those channels like ashens and AVGN who make a living off of being offensive in one way or another? ashens especially because he straight up blowtorches products on film.

Tactical Nuke · August 01, 2017, 07:36:29 PM

Quote from: PhantOS on August 01, 2017, 07:32:16 PM

the adpocalypse wasn't youtube's fault. you have to make some sacrifices when your only source of revenue is complaining that its ads are being associated with controversial videos

yeah the adpocalypse was a reaction to the WSJ stuffheads but who was the guy flagging videos like h3h3's as controversial content? it was either a bot or a tried-and-true SJW, but it wasn't the companies complaining, they don't have the time or resources to point out specific people, so they resort to Google's stuffty-assloving AI

PhantOS · August 01, 2017, 07:45:29 PM

Quote from: Tactical Nuke on August 01, 2017, 07:36:29 PM

yeah the adpocalypse was a reaction to the WSJ stuffheads but who was the guy flagging videos like h3h3's as controversial content? it was either a bot or a tried-and-true SJW, but it wasn't the companies complaining, they don't have the time or resources to point out specific people, so they resort to Google's stuffty-assloving AI

several content creators like pewdiepie and penguinz0 explained that companies like coke or something would receive a complaint here and there that their product is 'supporting' a video that includes vulgarity or violence or other stuff. essentially WSJ blew it out of proportion and several ad companies decided that they can't have their ads displayed on non-kid friendly videos. so any videos that include cursing or violence or heavy loveual content or other 'non kid friendly' bullstuff have ad limitation and removed ad revenue.

not necessarily youtube's fault. they have no benefit to demonetize potential sources of income unless those sources are actively hurting their income, which in this case, it did. this is what the adpocalypse is. it's not youtube saying 'lets kill political freedom by banning all right videos' its just companies like coke or sprite or other stuff saying 'these controversial videos are hurting us because people are associating our product with them"

Deus Ex · August 01, 2017, 08:03:25 PM

#YoutubeIsOverParty

torin� · August 01, 2017, 08:14:45 PM

(((google)))

Johnimiester · August 01, 2017, 08:19:11 PM

I've seen leftist YouTubers clearly affected by /pol/ false-flagging campaigns, one channel having its videos removed in entirety because of the way that Google manages YouTube, either because of biased moderators or a kind of lackadaisical attitude on the part of YouTube, probably making the choice to play it safe and just go along with it anyway without even making the attempt to review the content. This sort of thing doesn't just simply apply to conservative vloggers.

This, of course, stems from a general attitude that YouTube has had over the years, making choices that piss off either the user base, content creators, or both out of a desire probably to save themselves from something that could potentially bite them in the ass later, which of course corresponds with a hostile culture between YouTube and the end user in which the former tends not to be open about the way that their policies are carried out at all.

cooolguy32 · August 01, 2017, 08:21:38 PM

this is bullstuff