Poll

Do you support the removal and/or destruction of Confederate statues, monuments, and/or landmarks?

Yes.
22 (19.6%)
No.
71 (63.4%)
Only Confederate statues.
8 (7.1%)
Other (please specify)
11 (9.8%)

Total Members Voted: 112

Author Topic: Do you support the removal of Confederate monuments?  (Read 11732 times)

as long as its kept in a museum for educational purposes to remind people how batstuff insane and horrible people were back then, sure

I don't think I care too much. As long as they aren't destroyed in some kind of mass revisionist history-denial thing then it's pretty whatever what happens to them imo

We just need to find an answer that keeps our history intact.

holy stuff are you a centrist now
Uh, no. Liberals who deny science or reject history aren't real liberals through the very nature of the term. You're confusing me with an authoritarian.

if it goes to a museum then sure

No, you can't change the past, no matter how much you hate it. The only thing you can do is accept it and move on with the knowledge that won't make the same mistake again. Moving them however? Sure, as long as it's to some sort of museum or display.

Uh, no. Liberals who deny science or reject history aren't real liberals through the very nature of the term. You're confusing me with an authoritarian.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman

Uh, no. Liberals who deny science or reject history aren't real liberals through the very nature of the term. You're confusing me with an authoritarian.

Fill me up with those facts

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman

except classical liberalism actually is traditionally placed in the center

liberalism can mean either social liberalism, which is left-wing, or social liberalism, which, as i said before, is centrist

zealot is clearly not the center so

liberalism can mean either social liberalism, which is left-wing, or social liberalism, which, as i said before, is centrist

Wait huh, I'm confused

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
I don't think you really know what you're talking about. If I said 'No true liberal likes Mexican food!' then it would be a no-true-scotman fallacy. Except liberalism is founded in progress and scientific advancement, while conservatism is rooted in the opposite--the rejection of science and progress, focusing on tradition. A liberal who rejects the sciences is an oxymoron for those reasons. It's not a TS fallacy if the positions are contradictory--eg 'You're not a real Vegetarian if you eat bacon.'

except classical liberalism actually is traditionally placed in the center

liberalism can mean either social liberalism, which is left-wing, or social liberalism, which, as i said before, is centrist
Not exactly. I assume you mean social liberalism versus classical liberalism, or something like that. Political ideology is a 4-way system, with authority at the top, and liberty at the bottom (generally). Progress/Equality on the left, and Tradition/Opportunity on the right. A high leftist would advocate sweeping government inference to enforce equal rights for all people (like the SJWs on college campuses) while a lower-leftist would advocate for personal liberty (the rights to marriage, gender identity, religion) for all people in the eyes of the government but avoid government policies that attempt to control public opinion because that itself contradicts the nature of personal liberty.

I'd be a center-left (far-left by American standards) lower (standard by American standards) ideology that advocates for maximum personal liberty with a government that attempts to create equality through the benefiting of the less-capable.
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the rejection of science and progress, focusing on tradition.

lol



Tradition vs progress is on the same spectrum as authoritarian vs libertarian. Right/left is solely economic.