Gothboy77 'appreciation' thread

[Red Spy]

how to forget do orbits work if gravity doesn't exist

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[Legoboss]

science resigned!

[Foxscotch]

how to forget do orbits work if gravity doesn't exist

density

[Juncoph]

how to forget do orbits work if gravity doesn't exist

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[Aide33]

I'm glad you found one article where somebody who is at-least not an irrelevant nobody or renowned dumbass to say "gravity doesn’t exist" for the purpose of attention, but it's very clear that you have no idea what this article is saying, because it's agreeing that gravity exists, but saying it is an entropic force as opposed to a fundamental force. It doesn't say anything about my sandwich falling down when I drop it because it's "denser than air", that makes no sense.

Here is the wikipedia article about the theory, and it is unsurprisingly very much a theory. It literally says "The theory of entropic gravity abides by Newton's law of universal gravitation on earth and at interplanetary distances". I'm assuming you're switching your argument over to "Gravity is an entropic force" from "Gravity doesn't exist" now?

You're going to actually have to present your argument in your own words, and not just link to some NYTimes article that is 80% biography and 20% pseudoscience, if you want anyone to take this seriously.

this is the first time I 100% agree with you

well summarized

[Juncoph]

this is the first time I 100% agree with you

well summarized

science tends to cause unexpected cooperation

[Foxscotch]

science tends to cause unexpected cooperation

tell that to climate change

[Goth77]

I'm glad you found one article where somebody who is at-least not an irrelevant nobody or renowned dumbass to say "gravity doesn’t exist" for the purpose of attention, but it's very clear that you have no idea what this article is saying, because it's agreeing that gravity exists, but saying it is an entropic force as opposed to a fundamental force. It doesn't say anything about my sandwich falling down when I drop it because it's "denser than air", that makes no sense.

It makes sense to me. If your sandwhich was comprised of something like helium then it would float. I guess "gravity" only applies to certain sandwiches.

“We’ve known for a long time gravity doesn’t exist,” Dr. Verlinde said, “It’s time to yell it.”

Here is the wikipedia article about the theory, and it is unsurprisingly very much a theory. It literally says "The theory of entropic gravity abides by Newton's law of universal gravitation on earth and at interplanetary distances". I'm assuming you're switching your argument over to "Gravity is an entropic force" from "Gravity doesn't exist" now?

It is very much theory, and no

You're going to actually have to present your argument in your own words, and not just link to some NYTimes article that is 80% biography and 20% pseudoscience, if you want anyone to take this seriously

So your telling me that you would believe my words over a perfectly legit scientific article I just linked you to? Your suggestion does not sound like it would work very well

[beachbum111111]

So Goth if the earth isn't really round then have we actually gone to space or is that a hoax?

[HellHound]

helium isn't a solid though. density is relevant for fluids interacting, not a solid and a fluid like air. balloons with helium are lofted because the lower density of helium creates a pressure difference at the top and bottom of the balloon that pushes it upwards. if you actually knew a thing about physics or gas laws, this "discussion" wouldn't be happening.

[Red Spy]

It is very much theory, and no

you know a theory is above a law, right

[Drydess]

holy forget just put a sandwich in a vacuum chamber and watch magic happen

[Foxscotch]

if u genuinely believe gravity don't work like the Scientists say it work, then ur a fool frankly. stuff you use probably on a practically daily basis relies on that sorta thing. GPS uses satellites, which first of all A: gravity obviously caint work just cus of "density" cus there aint no forgetin air in space and B: all of that general relativity stuff einstein came up with, GPS relies on knowing those facts in order to get you the info you need. if GPS didn't account for time dilation, it'd get 10km off every day. but ok einstein and everybody else is wrong despite knowing loads stuff more about this than you ever will cus you decide you want an explanation that is simpler for you to understand

and if you dont believe in satellites or whatever the forget then forget u honestly

[Ipquarx]

holy forget just put a sandwich in a vacuum chamber and watch magic happen

"vacuums are fake news"

[Juncoph]

tell that to climate change

the US military doesn't give a stuff about friend politicians, and openly states that climate change is a threat to national security

It makes sense to me. If your sandwhich was comprised of something like helium then it would float. I guess "gravity" only applies to certain sandwiches.It is very much theory, and no
So your telling me that you would believe my words over a perfectly legit scientific article I just linked you to? Your suggestion does not sound like it would work very well

the density of an object being greater than the medium it is in will result in it sinking. this is true. however, this doesn't disagree with the newtonian definition of gravity at all. denser materials sink in less dense materials because of pressure. a lead weight exerts more downward force (due to gravity) over a given area than a similar volume of air, because there's more mass in that given volume - equal masses of lead and air would both exert the same downward force, but the lead would still sink right down because the volume of air is far greater, meaning the overall downward pressure is severely reduced. i can get more in-depth and account for more factors, e.g. the actual details of gravitational forces, but this is a simplified answer as to why "muh density" is technically correct but not a good answer (and also does nothing to discredit gravity)

also, "it is very much theory"- a scientific theory is not defined by the colloquial definition outside of science. a colloquial theory is known as a hypothesis in science. a scientific theory is a hypothesis which has substantial evidence, has been thoroughly tested and reviewed, and has no substantially superior alternative scientific theory known in the scientific community.

scientific theories do not claim to be the absolute truth. they are a scientific approach to moving towards the truth - during every scientific revolution, or breakthrough, we simply replace a theory with a more accurate theory.

(longer flaw lines = bigger flaws, number of flaw lines irrelevant)

in the case of the amsterdam scientist you linked to, he's not actually saying there's no such thing as gravity. he's simply attempting to refine the current theory, and move it towards the slot of "future theory". perhaps one day we will actually create a perfect model of reality, but it'll take a while