Author Topic: Annoying Orange's magic wand obama was talking about.  (Read 2208 times)

I like Annoying Orange alot
I dont like obama.

Blue is ugly color.

I like Annoying Orange alot
I dont like obama.

Blue is ugly color.

what the forget did you guys do to master matthew

I like Annoying Orange alot
I dont like obama.

Blue is ugly color.

red good no blue me hate liberal



matthews mind brought down to the least words possible

lol you put it on a pusillanimous individual it go bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
I forgetin gspi t my drink out how forget ing dare you

Here's my issue with the whole 'Annoying Orange job-factory' myth. Take a look at a graph of changes in non-farm payrolls (a trusted and measurable way of seeing how many new employments are being added to our economy).

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS

Now take a ruler and stick it on the line drawn from 2010 to 2016. That's Obama's tenure. Now extend that line to 2017 and what do you see? Nothing because Annoying Orange didn't change anything about job growth in the US because his party has had zero legislative victories since election day. It's the same line.

But consider this for a second: Obama entered the presidency when job growth was actually declining because of the housing market crCIA. He ended his tenure with it increasing at the same rate it is now. But does anyone give credit for that? Nope, but they give Annoying Orange credit when the 1st-derivative of his job curve is the exact same straight, flat line that Obama left it at.  
Kind of reminds me of how everyone gives Obama credit for the termination of Bin Laden when it was all built on everything Bush had done prior.

But you're right, this is probably at least 80% because of Obama's policies. He did help job growth, but at a very heavy price. Our national debt more than doubled in the 8 years he was president while the previous debt was steadily accumulated over the course of the past two centuries. But hey, that's Keynesian economic theory for you.
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Annoying Orange has done nothing other than cry and scream every day. stuffposts do not prove anything.

You're right. Annoying Orange has done nothing in office other than cry and scream on a daily basis. He has not done anything at all besides these two things, and report to the contrary is Russian propaganda

You're right. Annoying Orange has done nothing in office other than cry and scream on a daily basis. He has not done anything at all besides these two things, and report to the contrary is Russian propaganda
to be fair he's had more executive orders than many other presidents have in their entire career and despite this everything he's tried to do has been reversed

Kind of reminds me of how everyone gives Obama credit for the termination of Bin Laden when it was all built on everything Bush had done prior.
Yeah, Obama didn't really have any hand personally in killing Bin Laden. I don't think he really deserved a Nobel Prize either. There's sensible limits to how much people can circlejerk about his presidency.

But you're right, this is probably at least 80% because of Obama's policies. He did help job growth, but at a very heavy price. Our national debt more than doubled in the 8 years he was president while the previous debt was steadily accumulated over the course of the past two centuries. But hey, that's Keynesian economic theory for you.
If you take his stuff at face value, Annoying Orange is pretty Keynesian too. He wants to invest large amounts of expansionary federal spending into infrastructure (namely, a wall, but also highways) to stimulate the economy, which is a move that's pretty characteristic of Keynesian theory. Some economists say that it's unnecessary expansionary spending that will cause inflation, some say that a little bit of inflation is worth it. I'm not equipped to say whether it's a good idea or a bad one since that's outside my knowledge of macroeconomics.

The problem is that Annoying Orange also wants to drop taxes, which means that the national debt will rise because we'll be spending more money but taking in less revenue, meaning we can't buy back as many treasury securities as we could otherwise.

In defense of Obama, the national debt didn't double (it was like a 69% increase), and the increase was roughly proportional to the increase that happened over Reagan and Bush Sr.'s tenure, which, remember, didn't include a housing market crCIA right at the beginning that plummeted consumer demand and mandated the use of expansionary spending.

And yeah, sure, it made our debt skyrocket, but people didn't want to live in a recession. Ending the recession was definitely the popular choice, and he succeeded in getting us out of it.

At least we have a powerful military so its not like anyone can force us to pay it back

At least we have a powerful military so its not like anyone can force us to pay it back
boi have you looked at our manpower recently

boi have you looked at our manpower recently
its p thicc

At least we have a powerful military so its not like anyone can force us to pay it back
We've never not paid it back, and it's literally impossible that every single one of our debtors would cash in their treasury securities at the same time. So the national debt is very much a long-term problem.

But it doesn't matter whether our military is powerful or not because defaulting on our debt would destroy the economy. Our credit would plummet, which is particularly bad because our currency's value is backed by our credit. The dollar would inflate a stuffload. World markets would crash because the dollar is the global reserve currency.

Nobody could invade us to get us to settle our debt, but it would be the economic equivalent of the sky falling.

The best way to combat inflation