why do people hate b4v21?

[Protoss Dragoon]

why tho

[Ad Bot]

[Fire Vine]

"its splitting the playerbase!!!"

an issue that could be easily solved by someone making a external launcher for bl that has both v20 and v21 servers on the same server list

[Protoss Dragoon]

"its splitting the playerbase!!!"

an issue that could be easily solved by someone making a external launcher for bl that has both v20 and v21 servers on the same server list

Right, it could bring the player base back together again. Possibly.

[kelau]

the playerbase isn't even split there's like 10 loving people playing b4v21 99.9% of them still playing v21

[Fire Vine]

the playerbase isn't even split there's like 10 loving people playing b4v21 99.9% of them still playing v21

[Magus]

Because v20 is worse than v21 for reasons elaborated on elsewhere.

[Protoss Dragoon]

Because v20 is worse than v21 for reasons elaborated on elsewhere.

makes sense.

[Figure]

both games blow

[kelau]

both games blow

yeah well so does your mom

[Refticus]

the playerbase isn't even split there's like 10 loving people playing b4v21 99.9% of them still playing v21

forget off.
the v20 server is gaining more and more attention and players since the steam client was released for it (to even get the steam client you need to join their discord clique, so that's forgetin amazing).

v21 to the left, v20 to the right. v20 image provided by kenko. both images were taken at roughly the same time and day.
this was during the weekend too, so player counts become *much* higher.
v20 had more players on one server than the highest server on v21, did not get the total playercount of the v20 master server, but we can add about 4-6 based on the trends.
while yes, the v21 master server has more total players, you have to consider that v20 is removing potential players for the v21 server.

say if i wanted to host on v21, but a chunk of the playerbase were only seeing the v20 server, the amount of people i'd get on my server would be loving tiny because there's a much smaller pool of players who will see my server listed compared to before this.
aka. forget you if you're not a part of some clique who can advertise their server to everyone cross versions, everyone else is just jacking off in v20 without you knowing.
you either join v20 to host your server or play on a game which is rapidly losing it's active players to another version of itself.

but lets play a mind game here, no answers expected for this one;
lets say you're a new player in the middle of all this drama, you don't read the forums, you're not an alt, you just got a copy of blockland on steam. now you notice that the playercount is incredibly low, you do not know that everyone else is on some other server because it's not listed on the game.
you also won't know if there's an alternate client which allows you to alternate between versions as you just got this game.
so, seeing that there's like a tiny fraction of people, you quit blockland and demand a steam refund for a "dead game".

the blockland community is loving tiny, and we're splitting it in a ever increasing margin by introducing alternate masterservers for the game.
this isn't as much as a problem as it is now, but it's going to get worse and worse as the v20 server gains more attention and people playing on it.

[Protoss Dragoon]

yeah well so does your mom

OOOOOOOOOH DAMN brother HE ROASTED YO ASS

[ultimamax]

v20 is better and this split is not harming v21. People are playing v20 in order to play on maps - if v20 wasn't available that doesn't mean they'd be playing on v21.

[kelau]

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1. do you really think 167 players to 26 players is Ahh V21 Is Dying!!!! (pro-tip: more servers, it's spread out)
2. no, the amount of people playing your v21 server wouldn't be tiny, there's still a stuff ton of people on v21
3. really, i'd love to see where you're getting this "v21 is dying" statistic from, it's had the same amount of people on for the past good 2-3 years, you seem to be talking right out your ass saying that everyone is switching to v20

stop getting all paranoid and actually use your loving brain for a second, there's been no sign of decline since b4v21 started (nor has v21 gone down in playercount at all) and blockland is not just gonna suddenly kill of the new one because Muh Maps, people aren't leaving v21 for v20 at all it's just a way to enjoy the old game

[Maxwell.]

if v20 wasn't available that doesn't mean they'd be playing on v21.

honestly this, trying to force people onto v21 won't work if they don't like it

[Refticus]

v20 is better

1. do you really think 167 players to 26 players is Ahh V21 Is Dying!!!! (pro-tip: more servers, it's spread out)

167 players also indicates everyone online, even the afk and bots on the main screen of blockland; it's an inflated number when compared to the actual active player count.
sure there are more servers, but only like 4-8 of them actually have players on them.

2. no, the amount of people playing your v21 server wouldn't be tiny, there's still a stuff ton of people on v21

less players playing the main game  ==> less players to join your server you just started as they're all on the top server or another game version.

3. really, i'd love to see where you're getting this "v21 is dying" statistic from, it's had the same amount of people on for the past good 2-3 years, you seem to be talking right out your ass saying that everyone is switching to v20

simple loving logic; people start from area 1, people move to area 2, less people in area 1.
people are switching to v20 because it appears more active during peak times and weekends.
you can't play both v21 and v20 at the same time, you have to chose one to prioritize your playtime on.

stop getting all paranoid and actually use your loving brain for a second, there's been no sign of decline since b4v21 started (nor has v21 gone down in playercount at all) and blockland is not just gonna suddenly kill of the new one because Muh Maps, people aren't leaving v21 for v20 at all it's just a way to enjoy the old game

people do stick to a version of the game they like and will play it more, i'm not saying people will only play v20 because that would be handicapped.
the playercounts for b4v21 shot up once the steam client was released, it then became a problem more people were noticing for once.
i've been complaining about this with kenko since day loving one. i dislike the concept of splitting up a tiny community just for a little nostalgia shot.

this problem is just beginning, we don't know if it's going to have major effects on v21 right now, i'm making my best guess based on what i've seen happening.