Another school got shot up

[SeventhSandwich]

Do resource officers normally carry guns on them when they're at American schools?

I'd say yes at big public schools. You could make the argument that there are smaller schools with unarmed 'security guards' who should probably be replaced with an actual officer. I think that's a way more reasonable solution than arming teachers.

to me it sounds like a very good argument for having more resource officers

At schools where they don't already exist, absolutely. But it's not going to fix the entire problem, and there's an ocean of difference between putting a couple of resource officers in high schools and arming all of the teachers to the teeth. 

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[Red Spy]

and arming all of the teachers to the teeth. 

nobody wants this

[Conan]

to me it sounds like a very good argument for having more resource officers

i think it would malajust some kids if they kept seeing officers they know are armed around campus. its like having police always walking outside your home despite not being anywhere close to a police station - technically nothing is wrong, but its disconcerting nonetheless. putting this in an environment where kids grow and learn would probably have unintended, possibly negative side effects.

[SeventhSandwich]

nobody wants this

Except the entirety of the gun lobby plus several major pundits on well-watched conservative news sites. Also the POTUS.

i think it would malajust some kids if they kept seeing officers they know are armed around campus. its like having police always walking outside your home despite not being anywhere close to a police station - technically nothing is wrong, but its disconcerting nonetheless. putting this in an environment where kids grow and learn would probably have unintended, possibly negative side effects.

Think the ideal implementation would be to put officers in as security against outside threats, but bar them from actually doing disciplinary actions on students (unless they're shooting/stabbing people, obviously).

[beachbum111111]

How many people do you think this cigarette would've killed if he wasn't taken out? I would go with maybe 5.

[Conan]

that said, proposals for pushing for better education/teachers/support staff for students is the only real solution. aka the only way to stop kids from shooting each other is not through the threat that they will die, but rather resolving their issues and problems through therapy/support/a life that they enjoy so that they dont resort to deadly violence to express their anger and frustration.

the first step is to make teaching a respectable profession through more rigorous standards (higher required level of education, psychological profiling and such) and distribution of funding. places like oklahoma show the problems of letting states redistribute school budgets and hire teachers however they like - there needs to be some federal oversight and requirements.

[Red Spy]

How many people do you think this cigarette would've killed if he wasn't taken out? I would go with maybe 5.

1, he couldn't even shoot to kill

[Rockinboy2000]

nvm, if you saw this just pm me with questions

[Cappytaino]

i think it would malajust some kids if they kept seeing officers they know are armed around campus. its like having police always walking outside your home despite not being anywhere close to a police station - technically nothing is wrong, but its disconcerting nonetheless. putting this in an environment where kids grow and learn would probably have unintended, possibly negative side effects.

my campus has a literal police station on it and there are cops everywhere. Nobody really pays it any mind.

Do resource officers normally carry guns on them?

yes. Often they're just cops from the local police department with some additional training to work at a school.

[Drydess]

i've found that resource officers are actually so much more useful for drug situations than for stopping school shootings. of course having a police officer on campus is always safe to protect against weapon violence, but they're legally able to handle and carry much more to help you than a teacher could (narcan etc)
it'd take more than three cops for over a thousand students for me to begin being concerned, but there's a line where it stops becoming security and more a liability for all parties

[SeventhSandwich]

nvm, if you saw this just pm me with questions

well I tried to PM you but it says you blocked my PM

so yeah thanks bro

[Tactical Nuke]

Except the entirety of the gun lobby plus several major pundits on well-watched conservative news sites. Also the POTUS.

except you're completely wrong to the point of bullstuffting

the argument is to let those who can already carry be able to carry, not to just give teachers guns
literally no one is arguing the latter, it's only the former

[SeventhSandwich]

except you're completely wrong to the point of bullstuffting

the argument is to let those who can already carry be able to carry, not to just give teachers guns
literally no one is arguing the latter, it's only the former

https://twitter.com/realDonaldAnnoying Orange/status/966650397002813440

I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to

So yeah, he did say to give guns to teachers. He also seems to be working under the assumption that 20% of teachers have military or special training experience, but that's a separate issue.

[Rally]

< allow people who already have concealed carry permits, but also a background in combat, to have their concealed carry at work
< "ARM ALL TEACHERS TO THE TEETH!!"

[SeventhSandwich]

< allow people who already have concealed carry permits, but also a background in combat, to have their concealed carry at work
< "ARM ALL TEACHERS TO THE TEETH!!"

the dude literally suggested we should give underpaid teachers a 'bonus' specifically so they can purchase guns and pack heat in the classroom