[NEWS] "Red Flag" Gun Law Backfires, Gets A Man Killed

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Dipstuff law In Maryland allows a judge to rescind your 2A rights and order officers to seize your weapons if you are found to be a "threat" to yourself or others.

Officers went to a man's home to serve a Red Flag order, he complied with putting his gun down, and then resisted when they stated their intent to take his guns (unconstitutionally). They shot and killed him.

They had no constitutional right to take his legally owned firearms away from him with no warrant or reason. There is no clear reason why the Red Flag was even issued.

This is bullstuff, and this is why gun confiscation laws do not work.

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[Master Matthew²]

Ironically the red flag gun law should be a red flag of things to come.

The "crazy conspiracry theorists" saying they're coming to take your guns, aren't so crazy now.

[King Tøny]

Wow this is loving crazy.

They take away your guns with no reason and if you don't comply they kill you.

[Mr.Noßody]

Gangs all here

[Planr]

If I had guns and the government tried to unlawfully take them, I would rather die than surrender them.
Give me liberty or give me death.

[thegoodperry]

This is bullstuff, and this is why gun confiscation laws do not work.

because gun owners will resist arrest and put themselves and officers lives in danger rather than hand over their firearm? thats like saying drug arrests wont work because crackheads might stab the person trying to arrest them lol

next time dont resist arrest because you'll probably be shot lol. thats like textbook

[Master Matthew²]

because gun owners will resist arrest and put themselves and officers lives in danger rather than hand over their firearm? thats like saying drug arrests wont work because crackheads might stab the person trying to arrest them lol

Yeah except the reasoning here is bullstuff, because they can arbitrarily deem someone to be a threat: second amendment rights, gone.

Where does it end from there?

[Mr.Noßody]

I would love to know what the gun owner did to be flagged as a public nuisance. That's not an easy accomplishment but judging how this encounter went, Im sure it was something fun.

[Master Matthew²]

I would love to know what the gun owner did to be flagged as a public nuisance. That's not an easy accomplishment but judging how this encounter went, Im sure it was something fun.

It's actually much easier than you would think. Also it's not bring flagged as a "public nuisance" just a """threat""".

[Soviet Narwhal]

If I had guns and the government tried to unlawfully take them, I would rather die than surrender them.
Give me liberty or give me death.

imagine valuing a piece of replacable metal over a human life

[thegoodperry]

Yeah except the reasoning here is bullstuff, because they can arbitrarily deem someone to be a threat: second amendment rights, gone.

the police can also arbitrarily shoot you for resisting arrest, and they can arbitrarily define what 'resisting' means. i dont see you getting all up and arms when a police officer arbitrarily shoots someone for arbitrarily resisting by reaching into their pocket

[Master Matthew²]

imagine valuing a piece of replacable metal over a human life

Yes, ownership of metal ,that's what people are upset about.

These weapons are the only means of fighting back if the government starts to become a dictatorship. If the German people had guns durring the national socialist regime national socialist Germany would have fallen long before the war started.

[thegoodperry]

its amazing how libertarians will be like 'oh its ok for cars to run down protesters if they block the road lol its their own fault' but then the moment some dipstuff resists arrest and gets shot they're like 'uhhhh look what gun laws did!!! its the gun law fault!!!'

its okay guys freedom is rlllllly important!!! laws are the problem with society!!!

[Boomsticks Alt]

Yes, ownership of metal ,that's what people are upset about.

These weapons are the only means of fighting back if the government starts to become a dictatorship. If the German people had guns durring the national socialist regime national socialist Germany would have fallen long before the war started.

I mean.... he's not wrong

[Master Matthew²]

the police can also arbitrarily shoot you for resisting arrest, and they can arbitrarily define what 'resisting' means. i dont see you getting all up and arms when a police officer arbitrarily shoots someone for arbitrarily resisting by reaching into their pocket

Deflection
This argument doesn't contradict my statement nor does it have anything to do with it. That comes on a basis to basis system and there are times when this could be considered okay or not okay, but this doesn't inherently violate any rights. Also if your reaching into your pocket, it's very possible you could be reaching for a weapon, have some common sense.

The basis of the red flag law is that you can lose your gun rights at any time even if you haven't committed a crime. This is always a contradiction of the second amendment right, and this sets a bad precedent:

"If arbitrary conditions are met, loss of amendment rights can be validated."