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imagine simping for a jewish national socialist apartheid state

imagine simping for a jewish national socialist apartheid state
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imagine simping for a jewish national socialist apartheid state

pause the talk rq is OP the guy that used to have that one anime girl avatar that is breathing on the camera or something

imagine simping for a jewish national socialist apartheid state

Open borders for Israel and Palestine NOW !!!!!

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- grandpa after one too many beers


This entire conflict has been like a car crash in slow motion, we could've stopped it before but now it feels like we're a bit powerless to stop it. We can stop it in theory, but that stuff ain't happening no matter how many people say #freepalestine on Twitter or TikTok. These people hate each other's guts, and they're both so entrenched in their lands that both of their only win conditions are "kill everyone from the other side" and have been for the last few decades. This sort of generational hate cannot be calmed by fancy words.

There will be no peace until either side is wiped out, or they're both occupied by yet another nation as a "policing action" to try and stop the violence through even more violence.

All that being said, zionists and sharia-adherent muslims both suck. I hope the fighting leaves one dead and the other near death.

What.

That's a lot of very surface level opinion and it's not very good. It's kind of conflicting with itself.

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and have been for the last few decades.
Been a bit longer than that man
« Last Edit: March 06, 2024, 09:36:10 AM by Soukuw »

This entire conflict has been like a car crash in slow motion, we could've stopped it before but now it feels like we're a bit powerless to stop it. We can stop it in theory, but that stuff ain't happening no matter how many people say #freepalestine on Twitter or TikTok. These people hate each other's guts, and they're both so entrenched in their lands that both of their only win conditions are "kill everyone from the other side" and have been for the last few decades. This sort of generational hate cannot be calmed by fancy words.

There will be no peace until either side is wiped out, or they're both occupied by yet another nation as a "policing action" to try and stop the violence through even more violence.

All that being said, zionists and sharia-adherent muslims both suck. I hope the fighting leaves one dead and the other near death.
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This entire conflict has been like a car crash in slow motion, we could've stopped it before but now it feels like we're a bit powerless to stop it. We can stop it in theory, but that stuff ain't happening no matter how many people say #freepalestine on Twitter or TikTok. These people hate each other's guts, and they're both so entrenched in their lands that both of their only win conditions are "kill everyone from the other side" and have been for the last few decades. This sort of generational hate cannot be calmed by fancy words.

There will be no peace until either side is wiped out, or they're both occupied by yet another nation as a "policing action" to try and stop the violence through even more violence.

All that being said, zionists and sharia-adherent muslims both suck. I hope the fighting leaves one dead and the other near death.

this logic comes from israeli projection (not accusing you specifically of projection). one side has actually been oppressing, displacing, evicting, starving, imprisoning children, for 75 years at this point. and the rationale they give is that "if we do not do this, they will do it to us". the oppression they imagine will happen to them if they lift their boot is completely hypothetical. zionists throw histrionic fits about how palestinians want to do pogroms, to justify actually doing pogroms and ethnic cleansing.
jews, christians and muslims lived together in palestine in relative peace up until the 20th century, when zionists began making aliyah to israel and set up a proto-state. their intent from the beginning was to set up a colonial state and they didn't hide that fact well, though they tried, which is how the conflict started

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We can stop it in theory, but that stuff ain't happening no matter how many people say #freepalestine on Twitter or TikTok. These people hate each other's guts, and they're both so entrenched in their lands that both of their only win conditions are "kill everyone from the other side" and have been for the last few decades. This sort of generational hate cannot be calmed by fancy words.
twitter and tiktok have been pretty important actually. obviously just posting really doesnt help anyone, but seeing the death and destruction in HD on social media is why there's been so much mobilization and popular support. the free palestine movement has never been this big in the US.
this sort of argument was made about south africa yet the apartheid regime there ultimately did not last, i think apartheid states like this are more fragile and tenuous than you think.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2024, 01:08:49 PM by ultimamax »

I don't know why you guys are willing to make such strong claims well not seeming to knowing your history very well. Anti-Semites have been killing Jews for hundreds of years. Seems weird it's only a problem once the Jewish can stand up for themselves after building a home by... buying land and defending it. Not claiming all the land was bought but as far as I know most land acquisition by Israel has been after they've been attacked and they retaliate.

There's absolutely plenty of Anti-Semitic conflicts targeting Jews prior to 1948. E.g. Why aren't we talking about the Balfour Declaration of 1917? It feels like talking about 1880-1920 would be far more productive than starting in the middle of the conflict.

Also the word "Zionist" is a pretty heavy word that means lots of different things. It is not a 1:1 to tribal. As far as I know Zionism started as an ideology that supported creating a Jewish state out of the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2024, 04:03:40 PM by Soukuw »


are you jewish
Far from it, I'm an atheist and borderline anti-religion as a whole. I believe religion probably is a net loss overall. Maybe back in the past it was necessary to form proper communities and support systems but nowadays it just fosters hatred and closed mindedness. Even so I wouldn't push my opinions on others and I understand why Jewish people want to defend the place where they feel safe being Jewish.