The White House Hunger Games: ThErE aRe No EpStEiN fILeS

[Kore]

"preferring and hoping" that he meant something different than what he actually said sounds more like you're coping because you want a better outcome than what you got, which sounds more like denial than optimism

It's honestly more optimistic to take his words at face value as it's 'true' in a sense that he definitely said those words that he said, those are the words he said and they came right from his mouth, therefor i am acknowledging that fact and basing my thoughts and opinions on it

It's like if i said that the sky is green, sure i would be wrong, but those are definitely some words that i just said, and you acknowledging that would be more optimistic than coming up with some supposed "deeper meaning" to what i said

Maybe "optimistic" isn't the right word here, maybe "realistic" is more appropriate? Either way, my point still stands

Nitpicking prefer vs hope is grasping straws at nomenclature. Basic literature infers exactly what I mean you don't need to try and pick one or the other for this. But don't worry I know what you're trying to get at, maybe I'm coping. I said I'm an optimist of course I want the best course scenario. And yes I am also a realist. It's not an outcome I specifically got either, its what was said and people in the spotlight can't always be 100% on their game to say what they mean, things happen. The context of the entire prior conversation from the clip that got exaggerated had said so, that there was more to it than what got abused. This is more an argument for misinformation than what I personally hope for in interpretation.

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[Ceist]

damn this is a lot of projection.

[Kore]

damn this is a lot of projection.

Welcome to the conversation? Can't really see you saying anything of substance right now, come back later.

[Ceist]

Welcome to the conversation? Can't really see you saying anything of substance right now, come back later.

you don't deserve my substance.

[bloody jumper]

you don't deserve my substance.

pft

[Kore]

you don't deserve my substance.

Little bro is scared of a conversation of all things. This is exactly why the left has the portrayal that it does. Very tolerant of you.

[Master Matthew²]

you're incoherent and overtly biased. A fair conversation isn't possible because you want me to be some sort of evil right winger who hates everything you stand for. If you can't see it clearly there's no point here.

I was once on the right side of the aisle. I know the tricks of the trade. Conservatives do not argue in good faith, it is part of a grander strategy to recruit.

Unfortunately for you conservatives are out of the recruiting phase that was active in 2016. They smelled the weakness and desire to "debate" and used this as an opportunity to pick out those they could convert.

Little bro is scared of a conversation of all things. This is exactly why the left has the portrayal that it does. Very tolerant of you.

And this is the beginning. Add value to your own opinion to others. It doesn't seem that way, but this search for approval that Momentum implied of others (an obvious projection of himself) is what you're fishing for here.

By making it so difficult to be appealed to, you make it so that any appeal to you is valuable.

Then it's as simple as buttering up the people you see as potential converts. Tell them they're different, get them to feel like a part of your in-group.

And then they're in your discords. In your friends groups. And slowly their opinions shift.
Against basic things at first. Border protections, voter ID laws, gun laws.
Then it's slightly more radical things, obscenity laws, raising the age requirements of smoking or drinking.
And it keeps stepping up and stepping up until one day it's Great Replacement Theory and Holocaust Denialism.

But out in the public you would not dare say these opinions in open forums. Because to do so would be to invite a total alienation. Because you know they are morally wrong, logically insane and no sane person would ever listen to you.

No I don't believe you to be an "evil right-winger". I am overly well acquainted with the right and what they admire. The term "evil right-winger" is redundant.

And if you say to yourself truly that you do not believe these things, or that they are not in alignment with your values, I implore you to consider whether those above you, those you vote for and support, believe the same.

And if you cannot see what is so obvious to everyone else, in that case you are not a right winger, just pitifully ignorant.

[Kore]

Not even gonna quote that slop. You need to stop thinking so black and white. This stuff isn't that polarizing. I want to talk with you guys and share difference of opinions. I don't give a forget if you agree with me or not. Be a liberal, be a conservative, be a traditional democrat, whatever! But don't sit there making fantasies in your head and project them on me.

Also I don't even know who the forget momentum is much less why would I care what some random thinks and try to get brownie points with them.

[Ceist]

Little bro is scared of a conversation of all things. This is exactly why the left has the portrayal that it does. Very tolerant of you.

handicapped maga-conservatives generally aren't worth having a conversation with. "centrists" like yourself aren't also because you throw yourself onto their side whenever your toes get stepped on. but that won't stop me from throwing dirt at you; that's how little i think of you.

[Kore]

handicapped maga-conservatives generally aren't worth having a conversation with. "centrists" like yourself aren't also because you throw yourself onto their side whenever your toes get stepped on. but that won't stop me from throwing dirt at you; that's how little i think of you.

Lol okay tough guy, took you long enough to pull a sentence out of your ass you stuff for brains forgetass handicap.

[Ceist]

umad bro? sit this out before you have an aneurysm.