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Side by Side Comparison to the Pope and Shirley Phelps Roper:

Shirley Phelps RoperDa Pope
Reads the BibleReads the Bible
Tells People how to Live their LivesTells People how to Live their Lives
Reads the Entire Bible and Follows ItSkips Parts of the Bible to make it seem more Appealing
Smileys Maniacally all the Time.Has a Cool Hat

And It's a Tie!

i just her because of here way of,"good" and "injecting pain" into peoples lives. If i was there i would have tackled the people holding the signs.

Iban, I think it's more of the fact that she would go and publicly announce that we should thank god for dead soldiers and 911 that gets to most people.

The world is just full of idiots.... I hate people who think like this and people who think every thing is a loving conspiracy. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A HAMSTER!

Eheh, this is why I love not living in a country filled with inbreeds and god praisers.

And yet, through some bizarre series of events, despite having a complete and total lack of moral crusaders in Australia, you still happen to have the lovely OFLC, which under pressure from religious organizations, added the warning "May contain supernatural themes" to Harry Potter. :D
Are you loving KIDDING ME? God DAMNIT. I hate all Christians. Every single one of them. Everyone that defines themselves as a Christian should be shoveled into ovens and baked. Urrrrggg.

Way to be a national socialist, you messed up freak.

Quote from: IbanZ
And I lol'd at the figurating thing. You cant take half the bible literally and half the bible figuratively. That, in itself, is a loving hypocritical set of bullstuff. When it says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind," are they like "Yeah, don't sleep in the same sleeping bag together. L-O-L, that's kinda gay XDDD", or are they saying "Men who forget men are to be killed."

How can you take that book as a moral guideline when you need to actually loving interpret the material? When I read a Science textbook it isn't in flowery English and figurative speaking, no. It's in plain English that can be understood.

You know there are modern translations besides the "flowery English" so you can read it the same as a textbook. Why do you think the Bible is the most published book in history?

Quote from: IbanZ
The Bible says you may sell your daughter.

Quote from: Exodus 21:7
And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.


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The Bible says you should beat your children.


Quote from: Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


Quote from: Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


Quote from: Proverbs 23:13-14
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.


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The Bible says to kill disobedient children.

Quote from: Exodus 21:17
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.


Quote from: Matthew 15:4
God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.


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Bonus Material! Go to hell, you friends!

Quote from: Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Quote from: Romans 1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Your taking quotes from the Bible and not reading the rest of the chapter. Let's say I wrote a report about WWII that talked about people joining the national socialist party and saying, "All hail Riddler!" Then say someone quotes part of my report:
Quote from: Thorax's Report
All hail Riddler!
It sounds a lot different than it was originally written. That's what you were doing.

And with the bonus content, I'm a Christian and I don't hate gays. I know several people who are gay and they are very nice people. The problem I have with them is that the fact they are gay. It doesn't mean I hate the person, I hate what they are doing.

All of this leaves me with one question, IbanZ, What do you believe?

And Bones, way to stand up.

I was under the assumption that the bible was written at a time when stoning criminals and selling women as slaves were all common practices.

The interpretation of the bible by the church and its believers has changed dramatically over time, things once considered taboo have become commonly accepted, where as other practices have been completely abandoned in shame. It seems fair to question that if the interpretation of the bible is so easy to waiver at the moral whims of society, how are we to know that the modern day interpretation (any one of them that is) is correct?

There is always the assumption of divine truth, of right and wrong, of just and unjust, but these ideals change so frequently that they can't possibly be real.

If you examine the bible as a piece of literature written by an average citizen of the time period (this is assuming there is no deity) then the writing of the bible, and what it says literally in the text makes perfect sense. The bible was written with rules and guidelines to everyday life and to civilization in general based upon what was believed to be right and what was believed to be wrong at the time.

True, a portion of the bible is told through stories or allegories, but the lines in question are didactic. They are told in the second person, not the first or third.

Overall, religion has both positive and negative effects on society. On one hand, it gives people hope and a reason for acting in a cooperative manner and indeed without these implied rules of god, there would be anarchy. On the other hand, however, religion can slow scientific and moral progress and narrow the minds of it's followers.

There is always the assumption of divine truth, of right and wrong, of just and unjust, but these ideals change so frequently that they can't possibly be real.

Look at the 10 commandments. These have not changed or wavered one bit from when they were written. People try to bend them so that they can get away with different things by justifying what the're doing. But all in all, there is a line, right and wrong. What they are doing can either be right, or it can be wrong.

Eheh, this is why I love not living in a country filled with inbreeds and god praisers.

And yet, through some bizarre series of events, despite having a complete and total lack of moral crusaders in Australia, you still happen to have the lovely OFLC, which under pressure from religious organizations, added the warning "May contain supernatural themes" to Harry Potter. :D
Yeah those people piss me off, every thing on Aussie TV seems to be getting more and more dumber and "safer". For instance I was watching some kid TV shows and they where beyond handicap, super slow and super stupid problem solving, OH NO A BUMP IN THE ROAD WHAT DO WE DO! (15 mins of bullcrap) LETS GO AROUND HORRAY! It was never this bad.

There is always the assumption of divine truth, of right and wrong, of just and unjust, but these ideals change so frequently that they can't possibly be real.

Look at the 10 commandments. These have not changed or wavered one bit from when they were written. People try to bend them so that they can get away with different things by justifying what the're doing. But all in all, there is a line, right and wrong. What they are doing can either be right, or it can be wrong.

Your nitpicking. Of course there are examples of rules that can be found in the bible that are still held to be true today, but there are many more that are not upheld by todays standard of ethics at all.

My point is that "the line" has and always will be blurry and it moves, hence it is neither a resolute code of morality, nor the true commandments of some higher being.

How clear do you think the issue is? What if someone is killed in self defense? what should be their punishment (if any)? or what about foul relationships? who owes whom anything? why should one get the children or the other? There are an infinite number of other issues which truly test the theory of there being a line of right and wrong.

You guys are blaming certain groups of faith for the entire whole of Christianity, Catholics are the one who rape little boys, and seeing as the catholic church does not wish to be seen as a denomination of the Christian faith, I choose to let them have their way. The rod of discipline is so obviously a metaphor I can't even begin to explain it. You realize some of the bible was actually written as a story, not written as what you should do, like when someone is killed, THAT DOES NOT MEAN KILL PEOPLE. You are taking this crazy woman and her insane "ideas" and her group of 100 nut jobs and blaming it on the whole of Christianity. One day ibanz I really hope you come to realize how real Jesus is.


Oh and one last thing, the last person I would've ever expected to talk about spanking being bad is you ibanz.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 04:24:02 PM by Yeturn »

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Catholics are the one who rape little boys

LOL. Wow, what a bombshell.

I really don't think Iban is taking that crazy ladies' opinion as a true reflection of the vast majority of the religion's believers. He is mainly using this thread as a soap box.

And again, the portions of the bible to which he refers are not the ones which are told as a story. He is referring to the Didactic portions of the bible.

I was under the assumption that the bible was written at a time when stoning criminals and selling women as slaves were all common practices.

The interpretation of the bible by the church and its believers has changed dramatically over time, things once considered taboo have become commonly accepted, where as other practices have been completely abandoned in shame. It seems fair to question that if the interpretation of the bible is so easy to waiver at the moral whims of society, how are we to know that the modern day interpretation (any one of them that is) is correct?

There is always the assumption of divine truth, of right and wrong, of just and unjust, but these ideals change so frequently that they can't possibly be real.

If you examine the bible as a piece of literature written by an average citizen of the time period (this is assuming there is no deity) then the writing of the bible, and what it says literally in the text makes perfect sense. The bible was written with rules and guidelines to everyday life and to civilization in general based upon what was believed to be right and what was believed to be wrong at the time.

True, a portion of the bible is told through stories or allegories, but the lines in question are didactic. They are told in the second person, not the first or third.

Overall, religion has both positive and negative effects on society. On one hand, it gives people hope and a reason for acting in a cooperative manner and indeed without these implied rules of god, there would be anarchy. On the other hand, however, religion can slow scientific and moral progress and narrow the minds of it's followers.

I agree, or at least with the first sentence which is the only one I read (but what I was going to say if nobody had already said it). Iban, read it.

Side by Side Comparison to the Pope and Shirley Phelps Roper:

Shirley Phelps RoperDa Pope
Reads the BibleReads the Bible
Tells People how to Live their LivesTells People how to Live their Lives
Reads the Entire Bible and Follows ItSkips Parts of the Bible to make it seem more Appealing
Smileys Maniacally all the Time.Has a Cool Hat

And It's a Tie!
Hey let's compare apples to an iron anvil next, it's not like they're completely different I mean they're both made out of atoms.

I don't know who you are trying to root for Reactor Worker, but I don't see why you guys can't just get over the fact I wish to live my life believing in something better than all this. If I want to believe that in every bad situation comes a better benefit, the so what? Why do you just have to ruin peoples hopes. What gives you the right?

And on another note, I don't think anyone wants war, but its just necessary sometimes, you need to grow up and get out of your fantasy world.

I don't know who you are trying to root for Reactor Worker, but I don't see why you guys can't just get over the fact I wish to live my life believing in something better than all this. If I want to believe that in every bad situation comes a better benefit, the so what? Why do you just have to ruin peoples hopes. What gives you the right?

And on another note, I don't think anyone wants war, but its just necessary sometimes, you need to grow up and get out of your fantasy world.
And you tell us to get out of our "fantasy world". You clearly don't understand what a tragedy is.