Author Topic: Command & Conquer 4 announced.  (Read 3417 times)

Thus allowing the "EA pigs" to continue to be "EA pigs"

You make me sick.

50 Dollars, huge difference, man. It's totally all his fault.

And you piss me off.

Me buying or not buying C&C4 is really going to make a difference to EA right?
Yes, it is.

You all seem to be going back to that "one person can't make a difference" theme which is the reason why we aren't using cleaner, renewable resources to power our cars.

If you don't buy C&C4, you send a message to the developers that you want something else. Instead you just keep on keeping on because you don't think you can change anything by not buying it, and because you have a special interest for buying bad games.

The game is forgeted up and terrible but you buy it because you don't think you not buying will make a difference.
2 things:
1) What the forget.
2) It will make a difference to your wallet.

If a product is broken, I don't just buy it anyways because the maker has millions of dollars. I just don't buy it.
I just don't understand the logic behind buying a broken product which you don't need simply because you not buying it will not make a large difference to the maker's wallet.

Here's another tidbit of information: If you don't buy it, maybe that will convince someone else not to as well, and that will convince someone else, and so on.

But, you're going to buy it even if it gets rated a 1/10. Because $50 won't make much of a difference to EA. Someone makes something I don't like so I give them money. Perfect logic.

Old news is old, and there's a much, much better discussion (mostly because rkynick isn't schilling green "energy" and misinterpreting what everyone says) on Rock Paper Shotgun.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/09/command-conquer-concludes/

Old news is old, and there's a much, much better discussion (mostly because rkynick isn't schilling green "energy" and misinterpreting what everyone says) on Rock Paper Shotgun.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/09/command-conquer-concludes/
Sure, I think someone's logic is flawed and suddenly I'm...

Erm, what?

You do realize that schillings are coins and have nothing to do with "green energy", right?

You do realize that schillings are coins and have nothing to do with "green energy", right?

Schilling is also slang for "peddling, selling (as in overbearing salesman, or snake-oil salesman), recommending without truthful cause, etc".
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Amazing, really, how you completely focused on that post in particular. You must be thinking "I wont like this game, so I'm sure no one else will either, PROTEST!" Hey, lets all NOT buy C&C4 so you can have your way and get a better game right? naw I don't think so. I want to get C&C4 to experience the new game play and find out how the Nod story ends. I MIGHT like this game, but for some odd reason you think I'm buying it for some other whack ass reason.

Yea, I'm going to waste 50 dollars on a game you don't like, I'm going to keep EA in business so these games can be made.

Schilling is also slang for "peddling, selling (as in overbearing salesman, or snake-oil salesman), recommending without truthful cause, etc."
So I am to understand that you are against using cleaner energy sources?

Amazing, really, how you completely focused on that post in particular. You must be thinking "I wont like this game, so I'm sure no one else will either, PROTEST!" Hey, lets all NOT buy C&C4 so you can have your way and get a better game right? naw I don't think so. I want to get C&C4 to experience the new game play and find out how the Nod story ends. I MIGHT like this game, but for some odd reason you think I'm buying it for some other whack ass reason.

Yea, I'm going to waste 50 dollars on a game you don't like, I'm going to keep EA in business so these games can be made.
Yes, however you stated that you would buy it no matter how forgeted up it was.

I.e. if it was completely unplayable, you would still purchase it.

Whether or not you would like it has to be evaluated later(i.e when you can actually play it), but from your statement you expressed a desire to buy it regardless of that, and your reasoning was that a boycott would be pointless, more or less.

i want a real time strategy game that i can play a net game with 3 others for at least 2 hours. and by then still be buying upgrades and unlocking new units.

so many of them now cap out on everything in 15 minutes, and then its just about getting large numbers of the 1 good unit spammed in 1 direction.
not to mention the special unit/s you have that you need to earn exp on and find items for...

I.e. if it was completely unplayable, you would still purchase it
Come on now.

1) Whether or not you would like it has to be evaluated later

2) but from your statement you expressed a desire to buy it regardless of that

1) So don't you think you should let me play it before you try to convince me it's gonna be a bad game?

2) My post made you think I was going to buy it for no reason?

ok I'll give you 2), I should have made it more clear what I meant.

So I am to understand that you are against using cleaner energy sources?

I am so not getting into that discussion right now, but I guess I am.

Let's just say I am completely for using cleaner energy sources, as long as they actually provide energy.  In order to replace the current energy levels in America today, we'd need solar panels covering the area from D.C. to Las Vegas.

I'm much rather for nuclear energy, as it is the cleanest, safest, most reliable, most efficient, and most powerful form of energy there is, no matter what Jane Fonda says.

Now, I could get out all of the charts and graphs, but it doesn't matter.  Bottom line is, no amount of ethanol would be able to sufficiently replace gasoline, and gasoline isn't even bad at all for the environment in the first place.  Obviously, peak oil discussions are full of speculation and conjecture because of the agendas of the participants, but we aren't going to be seeing any shortages anytime soon.

Really, the "effects" of our current sources of energy are nothing like what Al Gore would have us believe.  The steps taken to remove things like DDT are actually more harmful than just allowing DDT to be used without intervention, and most of the so-called "effects" are all part of nature's cycle, like the opening and retracting of the ozone hole, warm and cold periods.  I mean, just thirty years ago the same greens were proclaiming the woes of Global COOLING!  Just because the pendulum has swung in the other direction doesn't mean we have a catastrophe on our hands, especially when the overall temperature has barely increased a fraction of a degree.  You only get a hockey stick graph when your Y-axis goes by 0.01 of a degree.  I mean, it was hotter in the 1200's to 1400's on average than what it is now, and you didn't see people in the Dark Ages scooting around in gas guzzlers and building smokestacks.

It's really all a bunch of baloney to get America to lower it's energy level so much that the soon-to-be-in-power-and-trusted greens can dictate everything you do, from transportation to toilet usage.  See, greens don't actually want America to replace it's energy sources, only to find new less efficient ones so that the overall energy level lowers so they can control you.  Not to be some sort of conspiracy theorist, but if you look at the things the panelists in Kyoto said, read the books of Paul Ehrlich, or even read some of the interviews of Al Gore, they put their objective in plain sight.


I can't believe I just wrote that entire essay, but that's what I've gathered from my research, so that's how I see it (in hugely condensed form).


ok I'll give you 2), I should have made it more clear what I meant.
And I will give you 1), I don't really have the right to tell you what you will/won't like



forget EA, they ruined the Red Alert series.

Before rky's post; Sounds and looks cool...

After rky's post; Hell to the no.

I'm not playing some dumb as forget "MMORTS" so I can get beat over and over again because there actually are people who dedicate their entire lives around it.

forget you EA, good job killing another series. Their next move will probably be closing EALA, and if that happens good riddance. Killed Red Alert and now they're killing Tiberium.

"Perfect logic."

Either way, if he likes/wants the game, he can buy it. It isn't like EA is going around slitting throats; they do some damage here and there, but everything negative that comes out of them isn't their fault.

There is nothing wrong with him buying the game if he wants it. No reason to put your panties in a bunch.

I also want proof that EA is making the game. The developer of C&C 4 is EA Los Angeles. It's a branch of it, but it isn't the whole damn company which everyone seems to believe.

If it weren't for EA, Westwood probably wouldn't have made another RTS after Yuri's Revenge.
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If it weren't for EA, half of former Westwood's games probably would've been actually good.