A sudden emurgence of christian nuts...

[Niliscro]

Religion's caused a hell of a lot of wars, and should be banned by every government in the world, to prevent war.

That would cause mass rebellion.
Even slight suppression would cause rebellion, so banning it would be chaos.

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[Inv3rted]

since when is someones religious beliefs considered science?

loving idiot. Atheism means LACK OF BELIEF.

In order to approach science in an unbiased way (without prior assumptions) and to properly employ the scientific method, you must be atheistic in terms of your testing procedures and hypotheses.

Religion is not considered science.

Atheism is not considered religion.

[Jay Ray]

So what going on with this "school" thing?

[Mateo]

loving idiot. Atheism means LACK OF BELIEF.

Atheism is not considered religion.

Well, calling it a religion would be flat out wrong. Calling it the belief that all religions are nonsense however is not. Though I suppose calling it "the acceptance that" would have been more suitable.

[Inv3rted]

Well, calling it a religion would be flat out wrong. Calling it the belief that all religions are nonsense however is not. Though I suppose calling it "the acceptance that" would have been more suitable.

Atheism is not a belief. Get that through your dense skull.

[Leafsoo7]

guys guys i do not care if there is or is not, that is why I'm an agnostic.

[Ladios]

Ladios:

God exists in a purely energetical form that we as humans cannot understand? What I don't understand is how you somehow have knowledge that no other human has.Cause I'm that special.
I'm saying that I don't understand it myself, I am jsut going off of what I have experianced in my life.

Every evil person in history didn't believe in god?  Holy stuff!.When did I say this?

I won't even bother to waste as much time debating as you did writing that block of assumptions..k  All you did was take Rex's logic and make stuff up..if you say so  The points where you got confused, you ignored..i didnt ignore anything, i addressed every single thing he said  When you can make readable and accurate points, I'll start taking you seriously..None of this said anything about my thoery, rex's theory, or anything at all actually. You have acheived nothing but to say "I dont like you"

[Deathwish]

That would cause mass rebellion.
Even slight suppression would cause rebellion, so banning it would be chaos.

That's exactly the problem, it's a lose-lose situation, the fundamental differences cause wars, and not being able to have these differences causes conflict too. Blarg, it's so illogical.

[Jaxx]

Let it be known this descended into a pit of anarchy and rage upon the entrance of page 6.

[Mateo]

Atheism is not a belief. Get that through your dense skull.

Someone's pissed for no apparent reason. Oddly enough,I'm getting a sense of deja vu here... I just discussed this with someone else. He said it wasn't so I guess whatever... He pulled out the old and musty intrenets dictionary and showed me proof that it was in a sense.

Update on this matter: I just asked my other friend. He gave me a reason to not call it a belief, unlike you who merely said "you're wrong" and my other friend who said "look at this word." After asking him, he told me atheism is an opinion. I would expand on this further, but out of my want to not become engulfed further into this argument, and through my need to finish my homework I don't think I will. (Don't take this as a "I'm leaving this topic"... This is just a "I don't want to have to word things in a way that are absolutely flawless" kind of thing)

[Ladios]

You are taking someone with my point of view and using them as an example against their own argument. .I can reference facts stated by politicians and use that against them, no?
If the science helps support my theory I have every right to use it.

It's very naive to assume that a universe can not exist without suffering and free will. We as a species can not imagine other dimensions, you can not make the assumption that it is impossible. .Ok then, but in that same logic, we as a species cannot comprehend the true nature of what a god might present itself as

Again, more quote mining. When I was referring to 'the universe' I mentioned the possible existence of parallel universes. Collectively they are known as the multiverse. But the same rules still apply; you can not exist outside of them. Existing in the multiverse requires existence within a universe. .this was not directed at me I dont think, because i acknowledge this, but appearntly unless I amke a comment after every single loving thing someone says, zaran will claim I am ignoring things

Michio Kaku is an atheist. You people really do not know your science.. Because one man's spiritual beleifes (or lack there of) should dictate the implications of his research, yes that makes sense.

If you can not comprehend something, you can not know of its existence. This is speculation, and is not regarded as science. The existence of the multiverse is still hypothetical. .Yes, everything I am saying is my belief, it is a hypothesis I hold to be true and it explains alot of what I see in my life. I really have no way of comprehending the vast natures of the universe or God for that matter

Theories are the highest level a hypothesis can go without mathematical proof (which isn't possible in all instances.).Alright, well I apologize for not using the word hypothesis as often as I should

My question was not infinite. It was a question about an attribute. I was not asking something like what infinity^2 is. .Fair enough, but for this I really do not know, nor can I ever possibly know. Unfortunately I have yet the perception required to understand these workings.

Everything that exists can be determined so by the scientific method. .Descartes says otherwise, but thats philosophy You can not plead ignorance and say that there is no evidence because we're too dumb. .But we are dumb. All humans are short sighted and really loving stupid. The thing is we cannot perceive other dimensions doesnt mean they dont exist. We do not see time. That is impossible for us. We see the three-dimensional objects and their displacement over a period of time. We cannot see time itself. For your hypothesis to be followed, you must find evidence. .I find that in the personal experiances of my life, however such findings are relative to myself, so I understand why you have this argument. The existence of God is just a hypothesis. .Fair enough, but its one that I hold to be true in my opinion.

"A spring company makes a spring, it gets put into a gun, and used to shoot someone, the people at the spring factory also made the same springs and that would go into pens, toys, etc. It just so happened that one shipment was used for guns that shot people. This means all the workers at the spring factory are now murderers.".just putting some blue text after this so zaran doesnt harass me

The creator of everything is responsible for everything. If he is indeed so far beyond our limits of comprehension, he would have created a far less imperfect universe. so he acts a specfic way because of how we perceive things? I think I know that you are trying to say somethign along the lines of that he would be able to make things better and should have, and I accept that you think that. Just your wording is a bit off, but I am just being nit-picky I suppose. He created the means of which for us to screw ourselves over. We still choose to do it. If you want you can blame God for giving us the oppertunity to get our arms chopped us, or you can blame us for being stupid enough to jump into the meat grinder.

"After reading every single thing you said I have determined that you infact did not even skim what I wrote. Try making a unique argument towards my point of view, which I specifically said would differ from others, than to just throw the generic attack at me (some of which i covered in my first teir argument things)".again, jsut blue text for zaran

You simply pulled a circular argument and displayed it as a rebuttal. I said that the free will argument is null and proved it, and all you said was that 'we have free will so we can be evil'. .why does the free will argument have nothing to do with this, I apologize if I misread soemthing, I would like you to specifically say what your idea is about free will, please.

[SuperToxic]

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist, or the rejection of theism. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence ...
-Wikipedia

It is not a belief. It is a position. (Possibly on a sports team)
:0

[Ladios]

Also jsut end the atheism arguement please:

a⋅the⋅ism  /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ [ey-thee-iz-uhm]
–noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings

[Deathwish]

This always happens, it burns out either when the conversation becomes about national socialist Germany and Riddler, or when people's points become so empty and fragile that they realise how stupid they look, and stop.

[Doorman]

Oh what a busy day...

Oh look at this long post, hmmm.

-snap-

Ah, I see. Well, that's your belief. I say belief because you believe there is no god.
"ATEISM IS THE LACK OF BELIEF!" I know! You don't believe in any gods, therefore you believe the is no god! I'm not saying it's a religion, I'm just saying it's still a belief!

Doorman, get that head out of your ass when you 'scoff at stupidity.'

Oh dear, someones mad. What you must understand is that when I said that, I meant that he didn't consider other people's point of views. I admit it, I don't know everything, no human can possibly do this.

*Let's read through the rest of the thread*

Now read my challenge and do it.

I am going to sleep for now.

When I look at the thread tomorrow, it would be nice to see a rebuttal to my post, rather than ignoring it.

Oh my, someone wants attention. Hmm, I guess  I shouldn't feed trolls, so I won't. I guess good day.

-<3-

Even though you've been a richard to me, I still can't help but love what you posted. You have basically posted what I believe in, thank you. Welcome to the mainstream club, the snacks are on the table to the left.