There Is No God

[Godik7]

Please, I have moved on from arguing with petty creationists to full on moderate Christians. Don't bring me back.

I'll give you one word of advice: read a book that doesn't contain the word Jesus.

:D I love you. 

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[Healbadbad]

Please, I have moved on from arguing with petty creationists to full on moderate Christians. Don't bring me back.

I'll give you one word of advice: read a book that doesn't contain the word Jesus.

He still loves you.

[Inv3rted]

He still loves you.

Not according to the Bible.

[Jsk2003]

The odds are way against the existence of God.

I don't know where you got that conclusion from.

Maybe I would agree with you if you said "the existence of the christian God" or any religion by that matter.

[Swholli]

It appears you are taking the position of full agnosticism, where either option has an equal probability of being correct. This is simply not so. The odds are way against the existence of God, but of course there is that tiny, tiny chance.

And so you're saying that because that tiny, tiny chance exists that you don't believe it?

What about when man once thought that the only way to get around was horse and carraige, he thought a car that drove itself was perposterous. Look at the world now. Once man thought the only way to fly was to wear wax wings, and if you flew too close to the sun they'd melt and you'd fall to your death. Now people travel by air countless times a day.

See this is what I hate about those who claim to be "completely atheist because of science". I mean, science is all about believe in in the impossible, and then making a better world. And I hate to say it, but a world with a God (not this world, mind you) or at least "hope" makes it all the better. Sure, I don't mean that we have to have religion at all, but to say that something doesn't exist simply because you can't see it is preposterous. Man once thought that cold was an element, and that it was a thing that could get inside of you. If we lived in this world you dream of where the impossible means nothing, we'd still be living in the dark age. Science only advances when people are willing to (and I quote magic school bus here) take chances, make mistakes, and get messy.

If everyone simply believed that the world as we know it is exactly what it is, we wouldn't have cells. We wouldn't have atoms. We wouldn't have anything on the microscopic level.

Odds mean nothing. Odds are simply a man made statistic that tries to prove something. How many stories haven't you heard where the good guy wins, despite all odds against him.

Dare to believe in something. Dare to accept another person, even when you know he's wrong. Dare to be caring and dare to be understanding, and never, ever think you know it all. Because you don't. And you never can.

[Cody574]

I don't have a religion, but you should let people keep these to themselves. Threads like this are just bound to start tons of flame wars because everyone has a different belief. People will think what they want to think, don't try converting people.

[Inv3rted]

I don't know where you got that conclusion from.

Maybe I would agree with you if you said "the existence of the christian God" or any religion by that matter.

The creator god who grants prayers and cares about you.

And so you're saying that because that tiny, tiny chance exists that you don't believe it?

What about when man once thought that the only way to get around was horse and carraige, he thought a car that drove itself was perposterous. Look at the world now. Once man thought the only way to fly was to wear wax wings, and if you flew too close to the sun they'd melt and you'd fall to your death. Now people travel by air countless times a day.

See this is what I hate about those who claim to be "completely atheist because of science". I mean, science is all about believe in in the impossible, and then making a better world. And I hate to say it, but a world with a God (not this world, mind you) or at least "hope" makes it all the better. Sure, I don't mean that we have to have religion at all, but to say that something doesn't exist simply because you can't see it is preposterous. Man once thought that cold was an element, and that it was a thing that could get inside of you. If we lived in this world you dream of where the impossible means nothing, we'd still be living in the dark age. Science only advances when people are willing to (and I quote magic school bus here) take chances, make mistakes, and get messy.

If everyone simply believed that the world as we know it is exactly what it is, we wouldn't have cells. We wouldn't have atoms. We wouldn't have anything on the microscopic level.

Odds mean nothing. Odds are simply a man made statistic that tries to prove something. How many stories haven't you heard where the good guy wins, despite all odds against him.

Dare to believe in something. Dare to accept another person, even when you know he's wrong. Dare to be caring and dare to be understanding, and never, ever think you know it all. Because you don't. And you never can.

Just because I don't believe does not mean I acknowledge that it's possible. Would you rather bet when you had a 99% chance of winning or a 1% chance?

[Mini-Man]

Well,have fun being tortured for all eternity in hell.

[Nick4t]

Silly Christianity!

1)  If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

2)  And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen.  "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."  (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

3) When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.  (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

4) From there Elisha went up to Bethel.  While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him.  "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!"  The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord.  Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.  (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

5)  And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed.  Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.  (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Notes: all quotes are taken directly from the Bible (no editing, you can check for yourself)

[Rughugger]

I see God as a guy who tried to help humanity along and realized that he was simply too picky with what they did and ended up killing darn near every one of them. Thinking to himself that this plan just wasn't working, he set off to some distant locale where he could still observe, but would wait for humanity as a whole to mature and progress enough (either spiritually or technologically) to be able to encounter him again. That it's the big test he's putting us to. Like parents who have to let their kids eventually go out into college and let them live their lives.

He just realized that direct interaction was simply more harmful to the race than helping. Which would explain his absence in our overall lives of today, which is why it makes it so difficult to prove he exists. But like Inv3rted said, however unlikely, there is still a tiny chance. It's just up to each one of us to make that choice and hopefully, from this point on, we'll all just go about and not give a rip who believes in what because we all got along just fine before all this crap was unloaded. I'm making that step.

[Swholli]

The creator god who grants prayers and cares about you.

Just because I don't believe does not mean I acknowledge that it's possible. Would you rather bet when you had a 99% chance of winning or a 1% chance?

Again with this odds business.

Why can't you accept that they don't really mean a god damn thing?

The chance that it can happen, can mean that it can happen.

All I'm really saying is: denying something is bad. It's one thing to support a cause, but don't lean towards it. That's being biased, one thing science is not.

[Inv3rted]

What? I said I acknowledge it is possible. It is just highly unlikely.

[Cody574]

god damn

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[Jsk2003]

-stuff-

I did enjoy that, also "nothing is impossible".
Quantum mechanics, we're like "OMG WTF NOT POSSIBLE", but it does occur.

The creator god who grants prayers and cares about you.

Oh I see, I don't care for religious gods and those bullstuff stories about prayers working and stuff.
By god I mean just some higher power who had created the universe.

Just because I don't believe does not mean I acknowledge that it's possible. Would you rather bet when you had a 99% chance of winning or a 1% chance?

I would bet definitely, except your chances are for if we're talking about gods that are in religions(prayer-answering caring ones).
If we're talking about an actual just higher power who had created the universe, we have no idea.

Well,have fun being tortured for all eternity in hell.

I lol'd.

I see God as a guy who tried to help humanity along and realized that he was simply too picky with what they did and ended up killing darn near every one of them. Thinking to himself that this plan just wasn't working, he set off to some distant locale where he could still observe, but would wait for humanity as a whole to mature and progress enough (either spiritually or technologically) to be able to encounter him again. That it's the big test he's putting us to. Like parents who have to let their kids eventually go out into college and let them live their lives.

He just realized that direct interaction was simply more harmful to the race than helping. Which would explain his absence in our overall lives of today, which is why it makes it so difficult to prove he exists. But like Inv3rted said, however unlikely, there is still a tiny chance. It's just up to each one of us to make that choice and hopefully, from this point on, we'll all just go about and not give a rip who believes in what because we all got along just fine before all this crap was unloaded. I'm making that step.

Interesting, sounds like a nice view, though I don't agree/believe in it or whatever.

[Block Builder]

Personally, if I was god and wanted my creations to believe that I exist, I would have written "Hey guys, I exist.  -God" on the moon or something. As of right now, according to Christianity, I'm going to hell because I believed in something based on fact and I wanted to find answers instead of just taking the easy road and becoming Christian.