Duck's New PC Thread

[Zaran]

According to Tom's Hardware benchmark results, two 5870's in crossfire beat the 5970 in every single loving game.  I'm an electrical engineering student that studies stuff like this and reads up on the latest tech every day.  I know that ATI makes the god damned cards, but do you think every card is exactly the same?  You have to factor in driver support, cooling, shell design, everything.  You would be better off buying either two 5870's or buying one and saving for another.

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[Inv3rted]

What do you have?

GTX280 SLI.

[Duckmeister]

According to Tom's Hardware benchmark results, two 5870's in crossfire beat the 5970 in every single loving game. I'm an electrical engineering student that studies stuff like this and reads up on the latest tech every day.  I know that ATI makes the god damned cards, but do you think every card is exactly the same?  You have to factor in driver support, cooling, shell design, everything.  You would be better off buying either two 5870's or buying one and saving for another.

LOL

According to Tom's Hardware, two 5870's in crossfire beat the 5970 in every single game by an average of 5 FPS.  I'm not sure that's worth $140 more.  

Tom's Hardware also says that:

"the 5970 is comparable to two 5870s.  The reason why they aren't on the same level is because the 5970 is underclocked to the 5850's speed in order to remain under 300w.  With ATI's included overclocking tools, we were able to get the 5970 to the 5870's speeds and became equal with the dual 5870 setup on most games, and on some games even surpassing it.  With better drive support coming in the future, the 5970 will eventually completely surpass the dual 5870 setup, as the crossfire configuration eventually hits a bandwidth limit, while the 5970 stays at x16 bandwidth for both GPUs.  At $140 more, dual 5870s are not worth the very slight performance advantage they give over the 5970."

You are an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.  Take your trolling and lack of anything resembling a brain elsewhere, please.

GTX280 SLI.

Ahem.  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474-8.html

The GTX280 is not on the list, but the 285 is, along with dual 285s in SLI.  As you can see, the 5970, getting 44 FPS, on it's own beats out the dual 285 setup by 7 FPS on Crysis at 1900x1200, with AA at 8x.

With dual 280s, that's gonna be around a 16 FPS drop compared to the 5970.  You can see that here (scroll down to 1900x1200 8xAA chart): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870-x2,2073-18.html

So, close, but no cigar.

[Inv3rted]

The 5970 barely beats a 5870 OC in many benchmarks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870-x2,2073-18.html

This also says the 9800GX2 is better than the 280 SLI.

???

My point is, the 5970 isn't as much better than the 280 SLI as it should be for the best of a new generation series. ATI underperformed.

[Otis Da HousKat]

According to Tom's Hardware benchmark results, two 5870's in crossfire beat the 5970 in every single loving game.  I'm an electrical engineering student that studies stuff like this and reads up on the latest tech every day.  I know that ATI makes the god damned cards, but do you think every card is exactly the same?  You have to factor in driver support, cooling, shell design, everything.  You would be better off buying either two 5870's or buying one and saving for another.

*high-five* Electrical engineering! What year are you in?

Unfortunately, you're being a prick about this brand issue as of now. Asus, Sapphire, XFX, and whoever else are all selling the exact same card right now. It's all reference design with a different sticker.

You have to factor in driver supportThese come from AMD, coolingReference, shell designReference, everythingReference.

Your points are valid when there is actually a selection of cards to pick from. There is a massive shortage of the high end 5000 series cards, so if you want one you have to take what you can get or wait a few months to get that slightly overclocked edition.

[Inv3rted]

I paid $560 for two cards that are last generation. Duck paid $600 for one next generation card. Mine are a year older and almost as good.

????

[Mr.Patrick]

Duckmeister, the 280 isn't on there because they're EOL.

[Otis Da HousKat]

Zaran, I can't send private messages.

I'm second year as well.

[Zaran]

Awesome.

[Madmitten]

is a GTX 275 a good card for next-gen games?
like oblivion and fallout 3?
and L4D

[Inv3rted]

GTX275 should be fine for the next year or so.

[Madmitten]

GTX275 should be fine for the next year or so.

thanks

[Duckmeister]

My point is, the 5970 isn't as much better than the 280 SLI as it should be for the best of a new generation series. ATI underperformed.

Whether your new point is valid or not is irrelevant.

My point is, that previously you said that your 280 SLI beats my 5970, which it most certainly doesn't.

I paid $560 for two cards that are last generation. Duck paid $600 for one next generation card. Mine are a year older and almost as good.

LOL



Annnnnnnnyways, newegg finally had one of the 5970s in stock, and I got one!  It's from HIS, and should be at my house in a couple of days.

[Inv3rted]

LOL

It's true.