Do you believe in god?

[Retz]

Crusades: God, religion

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[Rughugger]

Crusades: God, religion

Civil War: Slavery, Not Related to Religion or God.
Vietnam War: Territorial claims, Not related to Religion or God.
WWII: Lebensraum, Not related to Religion or God.

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[Inv3rted]

I dunno, you tell me. He pulls quotes from a book he considers complete fiction. How credible are his arguments if they are based off of fiction?

Are you saying someone who does not believe the Bible is true cannot quote it to prove their point? Showing inaccuracies in a holy book is a great way to get those who believe it to question it.

Your point is terribly illogical.

WWII: Lebensraum, Not related to Religion or God.

Riddler's official reasons for racial cleansing were religious. It may not have been his actual reasons, but he used it to convince the masses. If you can use religion to convince people that the holocaust is a great idea, I would say that's a problem.

[zookuw]

Im athiest.

[Rughugger]

Are you saying someone who does not believe the Bible is true cannot quote it to prove their point? Showing inaccuracies in a holy book is a great way to get those who believe it to question it.

Your point is terribly illogical.

Riddler's official reasons for racial cleansing were religious. It may not have been his actual reasons, but he used it to convince the masses. If you can use religion to convince people that the holocaust is a great idea, I would say that's a problem.

No, but a person who is prone to not believe will clearly look for examples that prove him right. That's just being flat out lazy. If he was in any means trying to help convince people of the faults of religion, he would find fault in a lot more than just the "God says kill them for this reason" or "We can only speculate what created the universe, but obviously we know it didn't happen this way." That doesn't sound too logical either.

Not completely. He never specifically stated "God wants me to kill the Jews." He wanted to do that all on his own because it was his belief that they were not of a supreme race.

[Chriz]

[Inv3rted]

No, but a person who is prone to not believe will clearly look for examples that prove him right. That's just being flat out lazy. If he was in any means trying to help convince people of the faults of religion, he would find fault in a lot more than just the "God says kill them for this reason" or "We can only speculate what created the universe, but obviously we know it didn't happen this way." That doesn't sound too logical either.

He says nothing of the sort in the book. Read it before you set up a strawman argument.

[Osak]

Riddler's official reasons for racial cleansing were religious. It may not have been his actual reasons, but he used it to convince the masses. If you can use religion to convince people that the holocaust is a great idea, I would say that's a problem.

He also had done it because he was envious of their wealth.

[Sarge]

There's a difference between believing in God, and believing God exists.

I believe in both.

[Retz]

Civil War: Slavery, Not Related to Religion or God.
Vietnam War: Territorial claims, Not related to Religion or God.
WWII: Lebensraum, Not related to Religion or God.

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What the forget!?
I didn't say all the wars were over God.  Way to read my first post, stupid ass.

[dkamm65]

[Wynd_Fox]

There's a difference between believing in God, and believing God exists.

I believe in both.

That makes no sense?

[Retz]

That makes no sense?

It does.

You can believe god exist, but not believe in him...
That's like, knowing God is next to you now, but you dont believe in Christianity... Get it?

[Wynd_Fox]

No.

[Inv3rted]

The one thing that most people don't understand is that not believing in God IS NOT EQUIVALENT TO believing God does not exist.