Tier+Tactical 2.1 • UPDATE 9/23/2012

[IsaacKronenFaust]

Then loving use it. Is it really that hard to snipe?

I don't use it because I wanna give my enemies a change to shoot back at me. Plus, if I start using the Military Sniper instead of the Assault Rifle or Sport Rifle, I look like a dumbass who has to have an instant-hit weapon to kill anyone.

Maybe they just like T+T and are tired of people like you who constantly post in this topic and complaining, never telling Bushido + Space Guy how to make the stuff balanced or whatever stuff you keep saying.

Have you even READ the things I post in here? I've repeatedly suggested making the Pistols and Military Sniper fire actual projectiles instead of that hitscan bullstuff.

You do realize you have to aim a little off because they might be
1. moving
2. trying to dodge
And also the snipers's bullets are a bit off sometimes, making it harder to snipe with it than Kaje's OP direct hit sniper rifle, so sniping takes some brainpower.

THAT is the whole point to my complaints!

Hey, just for the exceedingly dumb people like you, I'll go get a quote of mine for you to read. Maybe if you're smart enough, you'll realise you should shut up about your whole "Isaac whines for no reason" argument. Because I have a damn good reason to complain.

I think every raycasting weapon should be dumped, no matter how long it took to make the damn things. How many loving idiots with Military Snipers do I have to get killed by before everyone realises that it is, AS A MATTER OF FACT, unfair? I mean, I think adjusting your sight for the current direction, speed, and distance of the target and your own player/vehicle should be some kind of basic thing that most(if not all) players know and understand. If we fight with the same weapons at a good 250 distance, I should kick their ass because I know how to aim and fire properly, not because I pointed right at their face and clicked before they could. I might sound like it, but I don't do this to be an starfish to you all, I do this because I wanna have a Death Match like we used to.

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[Zloff]

That's why it's a 3-4 hit killer if not headshot, then it'd be a 1-2 hit killer. I do think that the headshot damage should be more around 80 instead of 99 though.

[Mr.jacksaunt]

I look like a dumbass who has to have an instant-hit weapon to kill anyone.

When thats the ONLY sniper that is on a server, you don't

Have you even READ the things I post in here? I've repeatedly suggested making the Pistols and Military Sniper fire actual projectiles instead of that hitscan bullstuff.

Use the Crossbow, don't use the pistols, and use the Magnum.

Hey, just for the exceedingly dumb people like you, I'll go get a quote of mine for you to read. Maybe if you're smart enough, you'll realise you should shut up about your whole "Isaac whines for no reason" argument. Because I have a damn good reason to complain.

You have lost all of your popularity, because of conplaining about this. Conplaining doesn't get you anywhere.
Bushido isn't going to listen to you because you think that you have to shoot many times just to get a person standing still.
(A reference from the old dogfight server, sniping at long ranges was and still is very hard)

[IsaacKronenFaust]

When thats the ONLY sniper that is on a server, you don't

I'll use an Assault Rifle to kill them instead. It's reasonably accurate, and using single-shot fire, you can kill a standard playertype in two shots.

Use the Crossbow, don't use the pistols, and use the Magnum.

I'll use them instead of the other two options, but that doesn't stop other people from shooting down my plane with a pistol.

You have lost all of your popularity, because of conplaining about this. Conplaining doesn't get you anywhere.
Bushido isn't going to listen to you because you think that you have to shoot many times just to get a person standing still.

I don't care about my popularity. If I had any in the first place, I doubt my rantings would be capable of destroying it. If nobody says anything, nothing happens.

Also, it's "coMplaining."

[Altered]

What's funny is that you don't even have to loving download it, and if you are on a server that uses it just loving use it.

[Bushido]

i think you're missing the point of the sniper rifle

the idea is to have a gun that's SO FAR REACHING you can reliably and easily take down major targets at a significant enough range

the trick is that if you miss, due to the tracer, you will most likely be noticed and suddenly have to haul ass because it's too unwieldly to use with any efficiency or competence once they're close enough and shooting at you

[prnceoprsia]

Not to mention that is ONLY a one hit kill if both the raycast and the tracer hit your target in the head.

[Speedy25]

Dude this is pretty sick.

[Mr. Bill]

Bushido can you post some pics of your most recent developements.

[Space Guy]

Have you even READ the things I post in here? I've repeatedly suggested making the Pistols and Military Sniper fire actual projectiles instead of that hitscan bullstuff.

Use the Gun and Guns Akimbo instead of the Pistol/Dual Pistols. The Gun does more damage but fires slower, and fires a normal projectile.

If we fight with the same weapons at a good 250 distance, I should kick their ass because I know how to aim and fire properly

250 units (500 bricks!) is not a good distance. The fastest "normal" projectile takes two seconds to get there so can be dodged. Hitscan guns will be the only reliable things to hit with. Build a smaller arena.

If you don't like what's happening, make your own server with whatever balance you like. If others agree that it's better then they'll stay there.
Personally, I think that a decently made small map is much preferable to point-and-click sniper wars across mountains, but even that is better than a neverending stalemate where nobody can hit the other with slow projectiles unless you spend five minutes walking. If anyone gets there it's still pointless as the attacker has one life and the defending team has infinite fast respawns.

[Mr. Bill]

If only the max projectile speed were faster...

I've already made a balanced non-Tier+Tactical TDM if you want it to try Issac.

I'll try to get a gallery thread for it this week.

[Tech-Troop]

I have a suggestion that derails your current conversation.

Can you make it that when you have 1 pistol you can pick up another one and make it akimbo?

[Bushido]

space's survivor player

[Tech-Troop]

Also, are you going to make a bolt action weapon that's not from the first world war?

[.::Taboo::.]

Also, are you going to make a bolt action weapon that's not from the first world war?

guess what these are