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Author Topic: My computer is upgrading to windows 10 without consent.  (Read 9465 times)

That statement was taken from the general privacy policy that applies to the windows 10 full release as well as the insider preview, so no it's not incorrect information. They're in both privacy policies, sorry for any confusion that may have caused.
I went through the privacy policy for Windows 10 Home and Pro, those policies do not apply there, look at it yourself.

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement
The only exception is onedrive users, where it has a similar policy but its not the same.

You took that straight from the Privacy policy for becoming a Windows Insider, actually read what it says at the top instead of just skipping to the bottom, I quoted it already, your literally just ignoring it now.

Edit 2 : Lets not go overboard with the paragraphs, please, I have other stuff to do than just continue this on and on and on.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 01:08:44 AM by ZERØ »

Okay, since this apparently needs explaining I'll explain it. Hold your horses before you go accusing me of willful ignorance for a moment here, yes?

If you look in https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement and click "Learn more" under "Reaons we share personal data" You see the following statement:


However were you to look there a couple months back (And you can verify this with the wayback machine) it would look like this:


Notice what's different between the two. Only the text within the parenthesis is actually different. From a legal standpoint these two statements are the exact same and I'll tell you why: What's in the parenthesis are just examples. The actual legal content is what's outside of the parenthesis "We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content." What's inside the parenthesis are just examples of what that includes, it's not actually what they're limited to.

So when it said a couple months back "We can access your private files and your emails," that still applies now because nothing has changed. They've just switched around some example text to cover their butts.

The reason I didn't include that in my post is because it would just confuse people. Legal talk is not a very fun thing to talk about.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 01:12:32 AM by Ipquarx »

Okay, since this apparently needs explaining I'll explain it. Hold your horses before you go accusing me of willful ignorance for a moment here, yes?

If you look in https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement and click "Learn more" under "Reaons we share personal data" You see the following statement:


However were you to look there a couple months back (And you can verify this with the wayback machine) it would look like this:


Notice what's different between the two. Only the text within the parenthesis is actually different. From a legal standpoint these two statements are the exact same and I'll tell you why: What's in the parenthesis are just examples. The actual legal content is what's outside of the parenthesis "We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content." What's inside the parenthesis are just examples of what that includes, it's not actually what they're limited to.

The reason I didn't include that in my post is because it would just confuse people. Legal talk is not a very fun thing to talk about.

This is exactly what I meant, however just to be clear, Outlook, OneDrive, are the things that have a similar policy, and those services can only be used with a Microsoft Account.

The OS does not require a Microsoft Account, since the user can use the "Use local account" option, by doing that the user can not use some of those services completely, I see now why the confusion is caused :

In windows 10, if you go with a Microsoft Account, sometimes it defaults to storing your Documents, Photos, Games, Music on OneDrive as opposed to locally, that's where the privacy policy you mentioned comes in, but if the user goes with a local account, this defaults to saving information on the device's local storage, and the privacy policy you explained does not take effect.

I guess its the Windows 8 all over gain where people thought the Start Menu was gone, when what really happened was they made it fullscreen and adjusted it to work with touch based devices.

You are not to blame for this, its just Microsoft being terrible at explaining things again.

I don't want to upgrade, it's loving bad enough most of the games I have don't support windows 10 right now.

So what are you suggesting? I upgrade to have a bunch of broken loving games?
I play a lot of old games that barely run on windows 8.

They will cease to exist on windows 10.
You're talking out of your arse.

I troubleshoot broken classic LEGO video games. Windows 10 has wider compatibility than 8 does. Confirmed this and I'm getting a lot less problem reports now.

You're talking out of your arse.

I troubleshoot broken classic LEGO video games. Windows 10 has wider compatibility than 8 does. Confirmed this and I'm getting a lot less problem reports now.

lol okay, then explain company of heroes incompatibility

windows 10 cant have more compatibility with programs that simply dont work with it, the programs themselves have to update

YOU are talking out of your ass

lol okay, then explain company of heroes incompatibility
CoH will crash if it's not given Administrator privileges and if it's forced into a compatibility mode, because game developers of the past assumed apps would always have unrestricted access to the file system and therefore made unsafe file calls.

windows 10 cant have more compatibility with programs that simply dont work with it, the programs themselves have to update
The only one problem I've found is SecuROM and SecurDisc, and there's a bunch of workarounds. Windows 10 has several systems built-in to support legacy apps which is why you only usually need to mess around with the Admin setting and some graphics tweaks.

Windows 10 is great, glad I could contribute, kbyenow.

CoH will crash if it's not given Administrator privileges and if it's forced into a compatibility mode, because game developers of the past assumed apps would always have unrestricted access to the file system and therefore made unsafe file calls.

this has been tried before, and still causes a crash on start up, pending a complete reinstall in order for it to work only once, and then have to be reinstalled every time again

this has been tried before, and still causes a crash on start up, pending a complete reinstall in order for it to work only once, and then have to be reinstalled every time again
Reading through countless support threads, I'm seeing more posters who have it working than who don't. This indicates it's not an issue with the OS, but rather something else (potentially a graphics driver or DirectX install issue).

You missed my post I guess.

In other words, you have been posting the wrong information.
I'm not quite sure if you've read his entire post.
Privacy policy only covers what Microsoft will do. The vulnerabilities still stand.

I'm not quite sure if you've read his entire post.
Privacy policy only covers what Microsoft will do. The vulnerabilities still stand.
Oh man this topic is getting really confusing, if you read my above post it explains this misunderstanding.