New Engi Shotgun?

[Moybus]

No, it's not.

what makes you so sure? the morgan model and the engi shotgun preview share so many key aspects (metal base, wooden stock, that little thing on the end, not to mention the red sight and antenna.

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[Peejster]

Maybe the new shotty allows you to identify any spy that's in your crosshair.

[tikitai]

Maybe the new shotty allows you to identify any spy that's in your crosshair.

thats maybe for what the scope is for

[Peejster]

thats maybe for what the scope is for

That's what I meant.

Also
>>scoped shotgun

[Moybus]

Maybe the new shotty allows you to identify any spy that's in your crosshair.
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while I'd like to think this, the engi's problem is that it's too difficult to be an offensive engineer.

[Peejster]

Maybe the new shotty allows you to identify any spy that's in your crosshair.

while I'd like to think this, the engi's problem is that it's too difficult to be an offensive engineer.

Your role as an engineer isn't to be offensive. A sentry is easily annihilated by a well-constructed defense. A shotgun blast up close scares away most spies, and smart teammates would see you chasing somebody while having the new shotgun and guess you're dealing with a spy.

[tails]

while I'd like to think this, the engi's problem is that it's too difficult to be an offensive engineer.

No it's not. That's what i do most of the time, Put buildings up, go fight with shotgun.

Engi's don't really need a update, The sentries just need to survive demoman a bit better

[Nepthan]

That's what I meant.

Also
>>scoped shotgun

That picture was already posted.

you could: log in on a friend's mac, or give your password to a mac user online like the one linked above. Although I really, really wouldn't advise doing that, because to me the whole "giv pass i get u earbuds" thing caused a ton of erections for phishers.

Also, the guy linked above is legit. Just changed my pass to a temporary one, he logged on, and I changed it back when he was done. (The guy doing it is also an admin on those forums, he's pretty trustworthy)

[Menen]

What I see from the video:
Soldier balancing out engi hat, and soldier hat. Possible Item trading?
Ipod Headphones (Confirmed)
New shotgun attatchment could possibly be some sort of manual sentry control system?
Heavy And Scout has a rapeface when he puts the headphones in (Confirmed)

Fix

[Harm94]

Armored Sentry:
+100 health
longer build time
-50 metal cost
-20% firepower/range
40% damage reduced from rocket and grenade attacks
self destructs killing every whale on earth building/human when killed
can detect uncloaked spies

[Moybus]

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you guys do understand the entire purpose of the new update is to add offensive capabilities to the engi, right? do you even read the steam forums? what you should expect to see are sentries that can be built quickly and are more dispensable than the current sentry.

[Harm94]

Steam forum is full of whiney idiots and people who go "rep for you :D" just for make a half-assed or stupid comment.

[Moybus]

Steam forum is full of whiney idiots and people who go "rep for you :D" just for make a half-assed or stupid comment.

I disagree. Everybody on there atleast knows that VALVe is trying to push the engi to the offense.

The LAST thing engineer needs is a sentry that takes longer to build. The engineer is not only fairly boring, but purely situational. Valve is trying to make each class more versatile, why would they make the engi less so.

[Dusty12]

Engineer is listed under "defense" for a reason. But it's not like Valve has undermined a class before, remember the Demoman update?

[yuki]

Engineer is listed under "defense" for a reason. But it's not like Valve has undermined a class before, remember the Demoman update?

Worst update ever.