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I could see the use in that
ok fair enough, that was a bad brown townogy since toothpicks are often used for other things such as adding fine textures and such to the paint

I meant that you're gonna have a forget of a time using it alone as a brush on even a semi-large scale

how about using a superball as an eraser

or using a motorized toothbrush on one of those black scratch-away sheets
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 08:00:27 PM by takato14 »

well everything i try to do ends up a miserable failure so what does it matter if I try to fix it'll still be a miserable failure

I'm really convinced of this because it's been proven multiple times

seriously for forget's sake

toothpicks have points

everyone is talking about how they can use toothpicks as art tools

everyone is saying they get the point

airbrushing is not experimentation, its being loving lazy, it always results in really soft and poorly defined shadows, it doesn't allow for hard edges simply by its design, which are absolutely critical to achieving realistic lighting and shadows

the airbrush is an objectively bad tool, its not like we're talking about differing mediums, we're talking about different tools to manipulate a single medium

it's like using a loving toothpick as a paintbrush, it's not gonna work well no matter what you do

and a significant majority of digital artists use the airbrush so the second part of your statement is a non-sequitur

I don't think you know how to shade properly. The inherit softness of an airbrush can give good color gradiation. Your locking the airbrush to one sole purpose of shadow rendering and dismissing the tool as a "plebs lazy excuse". Even as a shadow renderer, it can be used very effectively. You're trying to be elitist and say "UGH ONLY USE HARD TOOLS. GOTTA DO IT THE LONG AND ARDUOUS WAY." Even though the airbrush can render very realistically. There are plenty of professional artists that use the airbrush tool, I've seen it. It isn't about the tool, its how you use it. The artist makes the tool, not vice versa.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 08:02:03 PM by ShadowsfeaR »

I don't think you know how to shade properly. The inherit softness of an airbrush can give good color gradiation. Your locking the airbrush to one sole purpose of shadow rendering and dismissing the tool as a "plebs lazy excuse". Even as a shadow renderer, it can be used very effectively. You're trying to be elitist and say "UGH ONLY USE HARD TOOLS. GOTTA DO IT THE LONG AND ARDUOUS WAY." Even though the airbrush can render very realistically. There are plenty of professional artists that use the airbrush tool, I've seen it.
LOL, you're actually serious

wow

yeah no that's not how shadows work at all dude, not even close

take a good painting, for example

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13307184/

I guarantee the airbrush was never used once in that painting, and if he had used it it'd look a forget of a lot worse

besides even if the airbrush is "realistic" in some cases there's no arguing that doing it the right way will look better
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 08:17:01 PM by takato14 »

yeah no that's not how shadows work at all dude, not even close
depends on the light source and where it is

Well what other tool am I supposed to use then tak
I don't know how the other ones work except watercolor brush and that stuff is frustrating

I don't know how the other ones work except watercolor brush and that stuff is frustrating
so learn

first off you should be using the brush opacity and flow a lot

for blending, you lay down the color you want to blend from, then draw overtop of it with the color you want to blend to with the brush opacity set lower, use the color picker tool where they overlap, then experiment with the opacity and draw over the edges with that, repeat ad infinitum until it's nice and smooth
« Last Edit: May 01, 2014, 12:32:23 AM by takato14 »

besides even if the airbrush is "realistic" in some cases there's no arguing that doing it the right way will look better

"there's no arguing that doing it the way that makes it look realistic will make it look realistic"??

LOL, you're actually serious

wow

yeah no that's not how shadows work at all dude, not even close

take a good painting, for example

http://d.facdn.net/art/ceeb/1398479020.ceeb_kahnso_by_loculi.jpg

I guarantee the airbrush was never used once in that painting, and if he had used it it'd look a forget of a lot worse

besides even if the airbrush is "realistic" in some cases there's no arguing that doing it the right way will look better

(Nice 403* buddy)

There is no "right" way to making art, if it turns out good. You act like art is a loving stone wall and that there is absolute factual rules to it. Yes there are things you have to know about realism and rendering, and real life. But if you know the rules you can bend and even break them. Art is subjective and expression, what in your right mind made you think that everyone has to follow a specific regiment?
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 08:18:39 PM by ShadowsfeaR »

TBH blouk I just kinda feel the realistic looking shading doesn't really fit with your cutesy cartoony artstyle.
that's really the only reason why it looks weird.

TBH blouk I just kinda feel the realistic looking shading doesn't really fit with your cutesy cartoony artstyle.
that's really the only reason why it looks weird.
no it's because the lighting made it seem like the character was in the twilight realm in zelda TP

(Nice 404 buddy)

There is no "right" way to making art, if it turns out good. You act like art is a loving stone wall and that there is absolute factual rules to it. Yes there are things you have to know about realism and rendering, and real life. But if you know the rules you can bend and even break them. Art is subjective and expression, what in your right mind made you think that everyone has to follow a specific regiment?
And how the forget do you think "good" is defined? there ARE absolute rules, there is room for personal expression and there is room for bending rules but you are absolutely NOT allowed to break them, you can be as stylized and as different as you want it to be but if you don't know what the forget you're doing, if your art isn't based in reality, everything loving falls apart

art is not a stone wall, it's a twig, you can bend and flex it if you want but if you do it wrong you'll loving snap it

there absolutely IS a right way to making art, if you had any professional training you would know better than to say something so handicapped

stop pulling stuff out of your ass, you know you're wrong about the airbrush tool so you're trying to deviate off of what I'm saying because you have no response and you're too loving proud to admit you're wrong
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 08:27:00 PM by takato14 »


I don't think you know how to shade properly. The inherit softness of an airbrush can give good color gradiation.
Depends on the type of gradient you want, what kind of lighting you have, your specific style, etc. etc. I personally haven't actually used an airbrush in years.

You're locking the airbrush to one sole purpose of shadow rendering and dismissing the tool as a "plebs lazy excuse".
Good point, but that's literally the only thing I ever see it used for, save for blending swatches.

Even as a shadow renderer, it can be used very effectively. You're trying to be elitist and say "UGH ONLY USE HARD TOOLS. GOTTA DO IT THE LONG AND ARDUOUS WAY."
Generally taking the easy way out doesn't make for a very nice picture, since you put less effort into it.

Even though the airbrush can render very realistically.
You've said this already. There's more to shading than simple gradients. You have to take into account the possibility of more than one source, how light reflects, the materials being illuminated, etc. etc.

There are plenty of professional artists that use the airbrush tool, I've seen it. It isn't about the tool, its how you use it. The artist makes the tool, not vice versa.
An artist that uses a medium adapts their style to it -- the tool is shaping the artist's style as he shapes how he uses the tool. A sculptor working with hard clay will develop stronger fingers with practice, so that he has more control over how the clay can be molded.