Opinions - Should we destroy the last bit of the smallpox disease?

[Qwepir]

If you want a morbid brown townogy, lets say I wan't to rape Qwepir to death. I really, really want to bend him over and forget him in the ass until his colon wall tears and he bleeds out on my richard. However, instead of doing this in real life, I just masturbate while imagining him slowly dying from blood loss as I rape him. Even though I don't actually do it, it's still really satisfying, and Qwepir lives another day to stuffpost.

Oh god I'm laughing for real right now.
Why are you so brown townly anguished?

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[Iban]

Oh god I'm laughing for real right now.
Why are you so brown townly anguished?

I'm not.

[Qwepir]

You obviously are if you just fly off the handle like that at someone pointing out a blatantly obvious flaw in your ideals.

[Iban]

You obviously are if you just fly off the handle like that at someone pointing out a blatantly obvious flaw in your ideals.

I flew off the handle? I pull out my 'raped to death' speech all the time. Just ask Manty.

And it was an actual response to what you said. Do I need to dumb it down so you can understand it?

[Lugnut]

If the game is like, 15 years old and no copy of it exists, then Piracy really wont be that bad.


If you pirate to try a game before you buy it, and you BUY the game, it is ok, but still bad.

If the copyright is out, I'm pretty sure pirating it is legal. Thats why company's give stuff like iRobot (book) away for free.

[yuki]

Touching story, but you'll probably get banned for admitting you pirated.

Not when I did exactly what Notch said he wanted to happen.

But what if that person likes that game, talks about it to his or her friends, and then I manage to convince three of them to buy the game? I’d make three actual sales instead of blocking out the potentially missed sale of the original person which never cost me any money in the first case.

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If you want a morbid brown townogy, lets say I wan't to rape Qwepir to death. I really, really want to bend him over and forget him in the ass until his colon wall tears and he bleeds out on my richard. However, instead of doing this in real life, I just masturbate while imagining him slowly dying from blood loss as I rape him. Even though I don't actually do it, it's still really satisfying, and Qwepir lives another day to stuffpost.

oh my god lol

[Qwepir]

Do I need to dumb it down so you can understand it?

No matter how much you "dumb it down" it's still a flawed brown townogy because in order to be a proper comparison to someone stealing a game as opposed to just not buying it, you're assuming I want to be raped.

[Iban]

you're assuming I want to be raped.

If you didn't you'd keep your whore mouth shut.

[Qwepir]

See, now you're getting mad. I understand that admitting you are wrong is difficult for a teenage boy to do, but I implore you to try.

[Iban]

See, now you're getting mad. I understand that admitting you are wrong is difficult for a teenage boy to do, but I implore you to try.

rofl

that response was too beautiful and well-put to pass up.

as an actual response:

No matter how much you "dumb it down" it's still a flawed brown townogy because in order to be a proper comparison to someone stealing a game as opposed to just not buying it, you're assuming I want to be raped.

The property is loss is theoretical. Nobody is actually losing any money. I can't really explain it better than the first post I made with the bullets.

The only admitted flaw in this theory is that single-player games with no multiplayer interaction will, legitimately, not have any reason to be purchased as opposed to pirated. I'll sleep on it and see if I can find a better reasoning than what I've already suggested.

If that's your only point to make, I've already resigned. I can't think of a reason not to pirate Fallout: New Vegas if it's not illegal.


And, on a personal note, stop thinking you've "won" because my response seems harsh. I'm not getting upset. There seems to be a big confusion between a post made in anger/rage and a post made with a kind of macabre humor.

[Qwepir]

I can't really explain it better than the first post I made with the bullets.

Because there is no way to explain it. It's stealing.

• The person has no money and would not purchase the game anyways. There is no lost revenue for the company.

Some lazy schmuck decides that, rather than earn money and buy a game, they'd rather just take the game anyway. They try to justify it by saying "well it's the same as if I didn't buy the game". Which would be true if you didn't have the game at all. The company "lost" money seeing as there is someone out there with a full version of their game that they didn't pay for.

And, on a personal note, stop thinking you've "won" because my response seems harsh. I'm not getting upset. There seems to be a big confusion between a post made in anger/rage and a post made with a kind of macabre humor.

Unless I'm being completely oblivious here, I don't think I once mentioned how I "won" anything anywhere in any of the posts in this thread.

[Iban]

Because there is no way to explain it. It's stealing.

Beautiful twisting of words. Encore.

Some lazy schmuck decides that, rather than earn money and buy a game,

I like how this guy is lazy. He can't be a dad trying to unwind after working three jobs to provide for a bunch of ungrateful monsters and a bitch for a wife, no, he has to be a lazy motherforgeter that nobody will ever love that has never worked a day in his life.

they'd rather just take the game anyway.

I also like how this, obviously lazy and worthless "schmuk" is taking it. Taking the game from whom, if I may ask? Is he taking it from the pirater? Did he take it from the company that developed it?

They try to justify it by saying "well it's the same as if I didn't buy the game". Which would be true if you didn't have the game at all. The company "lost" money seeing as there is someone out there with a full version of their game that they didn't pay for.

Again, this is all theoretical loss. The company has lost nothing in reality. There was no money used to produce the instance of the software that was downloaded.

You also seem to be ignoring two other scenarios that happen quite often:

I torrented Spore for my cousin. She enjoyed it profusely and was interested in sharing and downloading the creations of other kids. So, seeing how much she enjoyed it, I spent my money for a key which I applied to the repaired game installation so that she could go online and show other people her creatures. If I was not completely sure that this wasn't just some passing fad with my cousin, I would not have paid the money for her to get it. Maxis Arts gained $50 because the cracked version of Spore was available for download.

Likewise, I once purchased a software suite for $20 that was almost completely fraudulent. It was supposed to let you monitor network connections to the Internet that opened processes, and allow you to terminate / limit these streams so that your bandwidth can be preserved and used for more important things. This was when I was hosting ZAPT games so I needed all the bandwidth I could get. Of course, it was a steaming piece of stuff and my willingness to help a company I'd never heard of out ended up costing $20. If I would have torrented it beforehand, I would have known it was a piece of stuff and saved myself a lot of trouble. The trial version of the software implied it could do a lot more than it actually did.

It's stealing.

This is probably the greatest argument against pirating. Not because it's true, but because some people just choose to offer gratitude for the software and media that they use. Believe it or not, there are enough of these people to keep DVD sales in the billions of dollars. Pirating has barely dented the nine figure profits that movies see post-blockbuster and I don't think it will ever pose such a great enough threat that the production companies will fall because of it.

[Mecha]

I put depends:
If you download it, like it, then buy it, i'm ok
If you download it, don't like it and uninstall it, still OK
If you download it, like it, and DON'T by it, you're a theif.

[Destiny/Zack0Wack0]

I believe pirating is bad. I've never pirated a game in my life. However, I don't care what other people do. I've tried many times to tell my friends that it is wrong and no one listens.

I draw the line with people pirating indie software/games. Larger companies usually get other sources of money towards their revenue. Indie developers rely on the money. Yes, most of them have a job. They're still obviously not making enough if they're selling a product.

You could say that they've already grossed heaps (eg. Notch) so it's OK to pirate now. That might be right, but if everyone kept that idea when the product first came out then the developer wouldn't of gotten anywhere.