Author Topic: I have lost faith in society  (Read 3326 times)

poor people make more babies. statistically true.
poor people are uneducated. statistically true.
poor people raise stupid kids. statistically true.

or more specifically; stupid parents raise kids to be stupid. this cycle of offspring remain poor and uneducated. poor and uneducated dont contribute to society.

killing is cheaper and quicker then fixing.

therefore; kill all poor people = improving the world.
Soylent green.


I thought that was the elderly.
You could make it out of others.

Face it, society is changing. If not for the good, it will evolve back.

  Simple laws such as no stealing have also been challenged be less debated but still immoral things such as pirating. The preservation of human life has also been challenged by abortion, which I do not support unless under extreme circumstances. The natural function of nature has also been challenged by practices such as cloning which is not helping an almost overpopulated earth in any practical way. These debatable subjects are only increasing tensions within traditional and liberal forces within society, and usually don't actually impact society in a positive way for most individuals.
gays can reproduce now
its the end of the world

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I do not intend to offend you, just stating a point in the form of a rhetorical question/statement; and will be written as follows:

If Buddhism's "Deity" is the universe, then wouldn't the universe be recognized from the spiritual/religious POV as the energy within it?  Emotions are energy.  The mainstream, controlled by trends, which are controlled by emotions, which in turn are controlled by energy, seems to link dangerously closely to the universe.  I find that at some point, one's moral standards could become weak; this is not limited to a few, but all people.  How would you recognize the universe then?



I do agree with this.  And just remember to those who disagree entirely, enjoying freely the pleasures of intoxication and love.  They might be waving a cardboard sign some time in the future.

The preservation of human life has also been challenged by abortion, which I do not support unless under extreme circumstances. The natural function of nature has also been challenged by practices such as cloning which is not helping an almost overpopulated earth in any practical way.
this is contradictory.

  It seems todays mainstream media has become much more shallow and overly obsessed with the individual. This is not a new trend, I know this, but the rate that we are becoming self-absorbed is much more alarming than I realized. This can be seen by the fact that most Hollywood celebrities would rather convert to religions such as Buddhism and Scientology, where they are not subject to any divine judgement. Or the fact that the devine judgement is a bunch of bullstuff. I do not hate/dislike Buddhists themselves, I am just saying that society has become too individualistic for us traditionalists. By "traditionalists" you mean fundamentilist christians? This is the very reason religions such as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are fading away, the fact that people are unwilling to accept subjection to any divine judgement, and a good portion of people would easily prefer a permissive society where they can do almost anything they want.No, it's because the "devine judgement" involves an invisable wizzard in the sky which any reasonable person can dismiss as bullstuff. Permissive society is mostly weak minded in my opinion. Even though it's not permissiveness, but rather commensense.

   Another thing that shows this is how a lot of mainstream music as we know today focuses on self pleasure and immoral aspects of society. Immoral? Depends a lot on what genre you're talking about, and what your 'morals' actually are. Since we've already established your a "tradiditionalist" I can firmly say that your idea of morality and mine are quite different. Almost any shallow, no dimensioned song with a good beat and lyrics about fame, love, and drugs can become a hit these days. Okay, that's true more or less. What happened to mainstream music that changed the music industry, that was well engineered, that had real artistic value and dimension put into it? If I dare show that I have a dislike for mainstream music that is played everywhere by everyone and express my own for a bit, I'll just be labeled as a "hipster", which is a very ignorant insult in many ways that I shouldn't even have to explain. I'm not trying to look cool by pretending to be against society, I have a true dislike for it. People who are that intolerent of other people's opionions on such insignifigant things seem to only exist in stuffty movies.

   Another thing that is horribly bugging me is how a lot of youth today are also becoming more shallow and ignorant because of media and self interest.People have always been easily manipulated by media, it's nothing new. A good percentage of students these days would rather try to have love with others and focus on social relations than to learn important education from schools in which they can apply it to impact society in a positive way.You're implying that once you get laid you can't be just as productive, which makes no sense. Instead, some kids will like to think that politics and such are dumb because everyone argues so much and tend to ignore it and will most likely become a part of an uneducated and easily swayed electorate that will impulsively vote for the candidate who makes the most outrageous claims in the electorate's interests.This is generally true and annoyies me also, however it's nothing new either. This is the reason in my opinion why a lot of radical socialists are gaining support. Wait, what? No, I'd think it's the oppisite groups that would be gaining support from ignorance and apathty.

   Continuing with the youth, what has happened to the moral standards of most of them? The trend that the general youth population are becoming more and more ignorant and shallow as the years go by seems to apply.Now you're just repeating yourself. I see many people cursing out their parents on Facebook for a simple punishment they received for the stupidest actionsPeople are stupid and act on irrational emotions, nothing new., and then I feel bad because I see people who are angry over their parents for real issues such as divorce and such. I love how you don't even bother to complain about the fact that devorice rates are over 50% of all marriages. It makes me sick, there seems to be no respect these days for the long lasting and moral foundation of the family. This is yet another thing I see permissive society doing, is trying to attack the structure of the family with its ideals, I dare you to prove me wrong on this. I dare you to tell me why it's wrong. Perhaps these ideas are things which need to be "attacked"?

   Simple laws such as no stealing have also been challenged be less debated but still immoral things such as pirating. The preservation of human life has also been challenged by abortion, which I do not support unless under extreme circumstances. The natural function of nature has also been challenged by practices such as cloning which is not helping an almost overpopulatedNope. earth in any practical way. Three things, one, the earth isn't really overpopulated, two, one or two people from these tests will not have an impact on overpopulation, three, no one has ever cloned a human.These debatable subjects are only increasing tensions within traditional and liberal forces within society, and usually don't actually impact society in a positive way for most individuals.

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Like things have been oh so damn moral in the past. Things were pretty much the same back then, minus the gadgets, so that's why those affairs are pretty much hidden from the average Joe.

I do not intend to offend you, just stating a point in the form of a rhetorical question/statement; and will be written as follows:

If Buddhism's "Deity" is the universe, then wouldn't the universe be recognized from the spiritual/religious POV as the energy within it?  Emotions are energy.  The mainstream, controlled by trends, which are controlled by emotions, which in turn are controlled by energy, seems to link dangerously closely to the universe.  I find that at some point, one's moral standards could become weak; this is not limited to a few, but all people.  How would you recognize the universe then?



I do agree with this.  And just remember to those who disagree entirely, enjoying freely the pleasures of intoxication and love.  They might be waving a cardboard sign some time in the future.
It's the closest thing to any deity in it. It's basically that we are the universe, and the universe is us.

I would hate to be called some one called for band-wagoning but I agree with you, Dodger.  Many times I myself see that I am talking about what I heard on the news and they go to say that they have never heard of that.  I asked them what do they see on the news and the most common answer I received was, "Jersey Shore is going to Sicily Italy".  Now my curiosity extends to whether or not they know what Sicily or Italy even are.

this is the exact reason going to public school as turned me into a physco. everyday I feel like stabbing at least three people in the eyes and eat them.

stab and eat eyes errday.

I read the first paragraph and I don't like it one bit.
Im self absorbed for believing more in the big bang, and evolution than some magical men living in the sky?

Other than that, some I agree with.
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I can't wait for the eventual fall of society. I know I can earn my living as a fur trader and live comfortably for the rest of my life thanks to my survivalist training.

I agree 100% Dodger.

     I cringe at our society and I can go on and on about how it's dysfunctional. I may even do that later. It is because of our society and the values and practices it upholds that the population is engaging in such behavior.