Author Topic: The Rec. Drug Thread - FAQ, Q&A, and general information.  (Read 386184 times)

its never a good thing to enhale smoke, it kills brain cells, and other stuffs
to me the enjoyment of the experience outweighs the bad

but it basically does everything tobacco does without the chemical addiction and less bad with the black lung and cancer stuffs.
axo don't listen to this guy

it doesn't kill brain cells, there is no actual scientific evidence to support this.  also, there is a chemical in weed that actually prevents tumors so the smoke isn't bad for you either

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Oh holy god I read the rest of little's bullstuff

you are so incorrect it's actually pissing me off
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 12:23:25 PM by _Rave_ »

Yeah, pretty much robo's got what's going on here right.
I've got a friend who smoked pot pretty heavily for like a year, got caught and then didn't for a solid 3 months.
So it isn't addictive.
And good luck tryna find a true story of someone who got cancer or died of smoking weed.

axo don't listen to this guy

it doesn't kill brain cells, there is no actual scientific evidence to support this.  also, there is a chemical in weed that actually prevents tumors so the smoke isn't bad for you either

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Oh holy god I read the rest of little's bullstuff

you are so incorrect it's actually pissing me off
You don't have to take scientific evidence just to know that you shouldn't be smoking stuff like this, just common sense.

aren't bongs safe and stuff? i read somewhere they were.

aren't bongs safe and stuff? i read somewhere they were.
For the most part, the smoke could cause a bit of irritation, but that won't lead to anything major.
If you don't feel safe with a bong or pipe though, use a vape. Less weed, no smoke.

I can see you guys are trying to deny it since you're already addicted to marijuana.

Lmfao kid, I've smoked for the past 2 years every week, and I've stopped since 4 months ago. Absolutely no problems, I'm applying for jobs.

It's not addicting as you are making it out to be

You're literally handicapped

Oh holy god I read the rest of little's bullstuff

you are so incorrect it's actually pissing me off

right? Lmfao
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 01:38:09 PM by Messes »

You don't have to take scientific evidence just to know that you shouldn't be smoking stuff like this, just common sense.

>Implying 'common sense' isn't heavily affected by media and public exposure (e.g. D.A.R.E.).

aren't bongs safe and stuff? i read somewhere they were.

Water pipes are 'safer' than hand pipes/joints/blunts, yes. Safer than vaporizing/edibles, no. That is assuming your idea of safety is strictly your bodily integrity.

i used to smoke a lot when i was in like 7th-8th grade but then i stopped other then taking a couple hits at this one party
the only "addictive" factor of it is on the person, its no more addicting then chocolate or bread, the person can become attached to it but its not like a cigarette.

>Implying 'common sense' isn't heavily affected by media and public exposure (e.g. D.A.R.E.).

>implying i hate marijuana since the goverment says so
>implying that your opinion on marijuana isn't heavily affected by many outlets that are used by marijuana distributors/dealers to gain the confidence of potential customers so they make more money
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 02:07:07 PM by Aphtonites »

>implying i hate marijuana since the goverment says so
>implying that your opinion on marijuana isn't heavily affected by many outlets that are used by marijuana distributors/dealers to gain the confidence of potential customers and make money
the point is that you're wrong

I can see you guys are trying to deny it since you're already addicted to marijuana.

Marijuana and tobacco are equally bad, Marijuana is slowly kills you mentally while Cigarettes slowly kill you physically.
Sweet.

Let's get started by observing a simple graph.

This graph isn't a great resource because it's far too generalized as far as addictive potential goes, but it does help my point. Since these are so generalized, it's obvious there's a large difference between cannabis and ethanol in addictive potential. Think of all the people you know that drink alcohol. Then, think of how many alcoholics you know. Maybe one or two, unless you belong to your local AA group. Now, cannabis is far less addictive than alcohol. In fact, it's not physically addictive at all. Any addiction to cannabis comes from psychological addiction. So this means, in the case that cannabis were as widely used as alcohol is, you would know fewer cannabis addicts than alcohol addicts. This means you'd be lucky to know one. You happen to be pointing out many users in a thread as addicts. This is not merely statistically unlikely, it's almost statistically impossible.

Okay, so now that we've cleared up addiction, let's move on to physical harm. Actually, there's not much to say. THC, CBD, CBN, and THCV are the main active ingredients of cannabis. Since you said it kills you mentally, we're going to focus on these since the others have no mental effect. Now, in reality, there's far too little CBN and THCV in cannabis to make a difference, but we'll pretend they are in equal proportions to prove my point.

Let's start with THC, the big one almost everyone has heard of. THC has never caused a death when smoked. Ever. That's a good point to bring up. Let's quote some sources here, to assure you I'm not flinging stuff at you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THC#Studies_in_humans Yes yes, it's Wikipedia, but if you want to argue about the validity of Wikipedia that's something for next post. It's valid. Try to find one bad thing in that entire section. One bad effect. It improves every disorder they tested it on. I'm trying to find some little bit of information on it's toxicity so that I can use this insignificant number to prove to you how little damage is done, but I can't even find a statistic anywhere that shows any detrimental mental effect. Anywhere.

Let's move on to CBD, the next most prevalent chemical in most cannabis strains. "Medically, it has been shown to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea, as well as inhibit cancer cell growth. Recent studies have shown cannabidiol to be as effective as atypical antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia. Studies have also shown that it may relieve symptoms of dystonia." We're not talking about medical use though. So we'll pretend all those schizoids don't exist. Essentially, this chemical is an antidepressant, anxiolytic, neuroprotective. I want to focus on the last one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroprotective This is a neuroprotective. Your argument is that cannabis destroys your brain. Your argument against CBD is absolutely nullified.

There's much less information about CBN and THCV available because they're so minute in quantity that most people have never heard of them. Essentially, CBN is a weak receptor agent. No real studies have investigated it's neurotoxicity, but it's a cannabinoid so in comparison to other cannabinoids it's pretty safe to assume it's not dangerous. THCV blocks the effects of THC, ironically, but not much else is known about it. It's not considered a threat by anybody.

So lets see, a quick recap. THC and CBD are both neuroprotective, disease relieving, cancer killing cannabinoids. CBN and THC are minor chemicals that people don't consider a threat. Together, on the leaves of Cannabis Sativa or Indica, 'cannabis' is not very addictive at all. Less addictive than caffeine, actually. So I'm going to ask you to make another dumb statement, that way I can hammer your sheeplike head into the ground once and for all.

mmmm,
idk why people post here because alot of the people that are against it are ignorant, or they just listen to there parents and belive everything everyone else tells them to.
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yuki hasnt been on since may 1st
:c
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 03:38:38 PM by Kilser »

I though cannabis caused visual and auditory hallucinations similar to LSD but apparently it doesn't. What the hell does it do then? Just make you relaxed and hungry?

I though cannabis caused visual and auditory hallucinations similar to LSD but apparently it doesn't. What the hell does it do then? Just make you relaxed and hungry?

Sorta. It alters time perception and memory, so you don't remember what happened five seconds ago and think you've been doing what you're doing for a half an hour. At the same time, everything is inherently interesting and the best way I can describe it is a child-like sense of curiosity. Everything feels like it will be all right. That's at probably a 3-6 on a scale of 1-10 being high. Past there, you start having tingles on your body and hallucinations accompanied by the previously mentioned. It's generally depicted as everything's funny, you get hungry and you get tired because that's what it looks like to a bystander (they're also all true).

mmm,
idk, its weird because the first hourish, or aka 5-10 mintues after i smoke i sometimes get more hyper and have more energy, so its ahrd for me to sit still and stuff,
but if i continue to smoke, itl be alright.