Author Topic: League of Legends - "The Enemies Inhibitor is respawning soon!"  (Read 185610 times)

If 2 people are doing equal amounts of damage to a single target, the kill is fair game, however if you are killing someone who is a single auto attack away from death, you should be entitled to that kill. You do the damage, you earn the kill. Simple as that. But if you are fully capable of killing a target, and someone uses a single ability to "secure" the kill, I'd consider it a steal. If you are unable to finish what you started, then it is up for grabs.

why do people care about kills?

unless it's a support stealing every kill from a carry, then there's no point in complaining

If 2 people are doing equal amounts of damage to a single target, the kill is fair game, however if you are killing someone who is a single auto attack away from death, you should be entitled to that kill. You do the damage, you earn the kill. Simple as that. But if you are fully capable of killing a target, and someone uses a single ability to "secure" the kill, I'd consider it a steal. If you are unable to finish what you started, then it is up for grabs.
It shouldn't be "I earned it so it's my kill. If you secure it it's a steal because I did 99% of the work" because kills aren't just to say "hey I have this many". They give gold, something your entire team needs. This is a team game.

They give gold. Some people may need the gold more than you do. Sometimes I end up letting an enemy go with 1% health (from full) because I know an ally can secure it, and they're a little behind on their build.

I always take people's kill when they decide to burst the champion to almost death without their team. I usually reply, all I wanted was an assist but you removed that option for me.

And if you've never died to boxes, you haven't played enough. From time to time I still get caught by a clever 3-box at level 1 and drop to no more than 20% hp. It relies 100% on the player having a summoner set-up completely tuned for that level 1 boxing, even a lot of IP's worth of runes. I don't think it's worth it, but those things are damn powerful.

This happened to my friend, 3 boxes were in a bush at level 1. A blitzcrank grabbed him into the bush and the shaco + blitz + boxes killed him very fast.

I think my flash and Q probably made me take less damage from it.

8 more levels until I can play ranked ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

8 more levels until I can play ranked ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
8 more levels till you can drag experienced players into elo hell ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

8 more levels till you can drag experienced players into elo hell ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm not terrible at LoL, you just don't like me because of the Drama section :(

I'm not terrible at LoL, you just don't like me because of the Drama section :(
No, I just think that you're not experienced enough.

I'm not even experienced enough.

8 more levels until I can play ranked ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dont even think about rankeds before u hit around 300wins please, Too much people who play against bots to 30 and then come ranked huehuehue and forget up your elo  :panda:

Dont even think about rankeds before u hit around 300wins please, Too much people who play against bots to 30 and then come ranked huehuehue and forget up your elo  :panda:

I don't ever play bots anymore, no worries good sir.

No, I just think that you're not experienced enough.

I'm not even experienced enough.

Oh, okay.

It shouldn't be "I earned it so it's my kill. If you secure it it's a steal because I did 99% of the work" because kills aren't just to say "hey I have this many". They give gold, something your entire team needs. This is a team game.

They give gold. Some people may need the gold more than you do. Sometimes I end up letting an enemy go with 1% health (from full) because I know an ally can secure it, and they're a little behind on their build.

Quoted simultaneously for truth and stupidity. The point of a KS (kill secure) is to prevent unexpected escapes. Suddenly stopping and not finishing an enemy is a great way to make me hate you forever when I break off at the same time for safety because I know you can get it.

It's pretty simple really, don't waste mana or abilities you are likely to need later, and beyond that, everyone should endeavor to make as many enemies as possible dead as soon as can physically be done. A "ks" is only possible because that last bit of damage cannot be managed by the primary combatant(s) before the "stealer" can do it, so necessarily the enemy is dying sooner; this is a net benefit to the team, and if you are not "stealing" my kill when you can, you are a bad teammate. It only becomes a problem when people who can viably be helping the whole time are not helping and stand idly by until the last second to go for a kill - in other words, it becomes a problem when sustains play like Twitch. But Twitch playing like Twitch is not a problem, and neither is someone who came as fast as they could whomping a finisher on them with their opening move. Indeed, virtually all KS claims I witness are nonsense.

edit: oh wait a minute, I actually wrote a list of 9 things every LoL player should know... didn't post it anywhere yet  :cookieMonster: but that's on the list... let me copypasta...
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5. There is basically no such thing as kill-stealing.
Win or lose, there is no reward for being the best performer on the team; only for being on a team that wins. When an enemy is killed, your team's total XP and gold are just as good regardless of who gets the last hit; in fact, the total gold for the team goes UP by 70% if an un-assisted kill becomes a "stolen" kill, because a seperate gold bonus is created and split up for assisters. If an enemy is almost definitely going to die, your team should make them go from "almost definitely dead" to "dead" as quickly and reliably as reasonably possible. A professional never hesitates and should never have to apologize for making sure that an enemy really really definitely died for sure. As a potential stealer, you are immensely overconfident if you think you can model all possible ass-pull escapes and rescues that the entire enemy team can pull off in all possible universes in the split-second between now and the ally's "rightful" kill; just secure the kill ASAP for the good of the team. The only exception is when a player has a soul-stacking item (Mejai's, Occult, Leviathan) and you don't, in which case you should try to feed them the kill if you can safely do so. Otherwise, there is no such thing as kill-stealing.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 05:48:25 PM by Mr. Wallet »

Yeah, AP Shaco isn't even really viable mid-game. I must admit getting those early game kills with boxes is fun as hell but I got bored of becoming useless after the first 20 minutes of the game. - Funniest kill was on a Warwick that was on his way to wraiths from blue. I put boxes in a bush between them and he died to the boxes while i had gone back to my lane, giving me blue and first blood for practically no effort.  :cookieMonster:

I've switched to an AD Carry-like build for shaco now that does A LOT of damage. He's so weak though you really have to count of deception and playing with the enemies mind to get the kill and live when you take out their squishy ranged carry that's at the back of their group.

Funniest kill was on a Warwick that was on his way to wraiths from blue. I put boxes in a bush between them and he died to the boxes while i had gone back to my lane, giving me blue and first blood for practically no effort.  :cookieMonster:
My friend plays hybrid shaco I think, but the boxes on the way to wraith are still viable.