Author Topic: Proselytism  (Read 4500 times)

As soon as the idea of a 'flying purple peanut of zazamaroon' is brought up, you form an opinion.

You can't say you don't believe in that which you don't know about, and you can't say you believe doesn't exist that which you are unaware of.
Ok, instead of the peanut thing, what if I was asked about the corbu? I would also say no. I might ask about it first, but since I never heard of such a thing, again I would say no. I cannot believe in something I don't know about.

Why can't all atheists be like this?
Ikr


Because the whole thing is so damn specific. It is just as valid as any other creation story that can be thought up. What makes it the true one?
I choose to not really think about the whole "where did we come from" question because I know it can't be answered. That's the whole idea.
How do you know it can't be answered if you don't investigate for yourself?
I believe Christianity is the true one because it is better than all the rest, and it's different than all the rest. Just look at the Books, A case for Christ, A case for a creator, and A case for faith. Those books are by an atheist that took a 2 year investigation as a journalist, and found that there is indeed evidence that Christianity is true.

How do you know it can't be answered if you don't investigate for yourself?
I believe Christianity is the true one because it is better than all the rest, and it's different than all the rest. Just look at the Books, A case for Christ, A case for a creator, and A case for faith. Those books are by an atheist that took a 2 year investigation as a journalist, and found that there is indeed evidence that Christianity is true.
Things being written on paper does not make them true.

Things being written on paper does not make them true.
lights on a screen don't either. So why debate? Sound doesn't either, so why talk? I believe it's quite obvious that it's what those things mean that counts. Besides, he cited his resources, you can look them up yourself if ever you read any of those books, everything he said was straight facts, nothing was speculation. And the facts supported that theism is the more possible belief. I mean he's an Atheist, and a Journalist, that is probably the most Science proven-Fact-Hungry kind of person there can be, yet he came to the theist conclusion.

There exists entire libraries of scientific knowledge that conflict with the bible. Your point?

There exists entire libraries of scientific knowledge that conflict with the bible. Your point?
I have not yet found one Fact that disproves God. All "missing links" and "evidences" of evolution or the Big Bang are either frauds, just plain wrong, or they are weak arguments. I love science, I really do, I'm not against Science, but there is quite a bit of poison, and falsehoods mixed in with it.

Creationism states that the world was made around 6000-7000 years ago.
Geological evidence provides that the world was really made ~4 billion years ago.
That alone conflicts with the bible and could prove the entire religion wrong, unless you don't even follow the religion completely.
Then again, if you don't, then how do you know that your personal beliefs are the right ones?
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Creationism states that the world was made around 6000-7000 years ago.
Geological evidence provides that the world was really made ~4 billion years ago.
That alone conflicts with the bible and could prove the entire religion wrong, unless you don't even follow the religion completely.
Dating methods are quite flawed, for example- one method of dating says that one type of mineral changes over time into another. (I forget what, but I believe this is in carbon dating) and it dates things based on the rate of change. But That method doesn't take into account that some minerals might have already been the latter, therefore could be 2 days old for all we know.

There are accounts you can google easily where things, like freshly killed animals, are dated to be thousands-millions of years old.

And a lot of rocks are dated by the fossils found in them. And on the very next page of the old text book, it says the fossils are dated by rocks. That's circular reasoning, does not work

I expected Wizzeh to make some dumb atheist rebuttal trying to say his opinion is proof enough.

Wizzeh, I'm not trying to offend you, but seriously, shut the forget up.

Dating methods are quite flawed, for example- one method of dating says that one type of mineral changes over time into another. (I forget what, but I believe this is in carbon dating) and it dates things based on the rate of change. But That method doesn't take into account that some minerals might have already been the latter, therefore could be 2 days old for all we know.

There are accounts you can google easily where things, like freshly killed animals, are dated to be thousands-millions of years old.

And a lot of rocks are dated by the fossils found in them. And on the very next page of the old text book, it says the fossils are dated by rocks. That's circular reasoning, does not work
so all of the samples reading the same thing are all just mistakes?

so all of the samples reading the same thing are all just mistakes?
Oh I doubt that. There's one person I knew of that believed as I do, and managed to find a fossilized pickle. (he left it in a jar for a few years) He sent it and it was dated thousands of years old. The dating method itself, I believe, is a mistake.


If the devil punishes the sinners, doesn't that make him a force of good?

Oh I doubt that. There's one person I knew of that believed as I do, and managed to find a fossilized pickle. (he left it in a jar for a few years) He sent it and it was dated thousands of years old. The dating method itself, I believe, is a mistake.
...you realize you don't just "send things in" and get them dated
whoever your friend sent that pickle to, it wasn't scientists.

Mysteroo is a moron.
And I'm sure everyone else is quite convinced by this here persuading accusation.

If the devil punishes the sinners, doesn't that make him a force of good?
He doesn't, The devil is just trying to bring as many people as he can down with him. He's being punished in the end along with the sinners.

...you realize you don't just "send things in" and get them dated
whoever your friend sent that pickle to, it wasn't scientists.
You realize you can just google up a site that gives you information about sending things to be dated. Just a few weeks ago I thought about sending something, and I googled something along the lines of "fossil dating" and found a facility's website that gave information on sending in your fossils, rocks, that sort of thing- to be dated. They're everywhere. And they are scientists

He doesn't, The devil is just trying to bring as many people as he can down with him. He's being punished in the end along with the sinners.
Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.