Author Topic: Losing Your Religion: brown townytic Thinking Can Undermine Belief  (Read 5852 times)

It seems natural to rely on something for existance, but it kinda seems natural.

So you believe in something because you feel like you have to?

So you believe in something because you feel like you have to?
Probably.

But I don't want to have a disbelief in something because it'd be easier or more relaxing to.

I guess I wanted to be in some way irreligious, but I didn't want to upset my parents.

Mmm, my family is still Christian, I am the only atheist.

They were surprised when I said I was an atheist, but that was it. It doesn't really matter, I guess it depends where you live and what your family is like. For some people (especially certain American families) irreligion can be a shocker for some reason. I guess its more culturally intertwined in America.

I believe in a deity but not a specific one, mainly because it sounded like the best way to go. Not to get out of going to Hell or anything like that, but so I could conclude my belief.

Maybe you should look into other religions. Perhaps Christianity isn't the right "perspective" for you on a God.

Some people believe in some kind of creator or power, but have no endorsement into any religion or religious perception. I think that is a little bit of a cheap conclusion, but thats just my take.

So you believe in something because you feel like you have to?

I am reasonably sure that study into religion shows that humanbeings were prone to needing and wanting to believe in religion in the days of early ancestry. Just back then this was channeled through tribes, rituals, and many Godly beliefs.

I am reasonably sure that study into religion shows that humanbeings were prone to needing and wanting to believe in religion in the days of early ancestry. Just back then this was channeled through tribes, rituals, and many Godly beliefs.
I have a quote about that somewhere, if I can find it

EDIT: "The idea of God was not a lie but a device of the unconscious which needed to be decoded by psychology. A personal god was nothing more than an exalted father-figure: desire for such a deity sprang from infantile yearnings for a powerful, protective father, for justice and fairness and for life to go on forever. God is simply a projection of these desires, feared and worshipped by human beings out of an abiding sense of helplessness. Religion belonged to the infancy of the human race; it had been a necessary stage in the transition from childhood to maturity. It had promoted ethical values which were essential to society. Now that humanity had come of age, however, it should be left behind." - Sigmund Freud
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Probably.

But I don't want to have a disbelief in something because it'd be easier or more relaxing to.

I base my beliefs on the available evidence. Sometimes the evidence is unfortunate.

Guys, there's a unicorn that you can't feel, see, etc. right next to me right now.
You can't prove or disprove it!1

^same logic as Christians.

I base my beliefs on the available evidence. Sometimes the evidence is unfortunate.
So does that mean I'm some criminal or something if I don't?

Does that give atheists the right to act condescending to me?

So does that mean I'm some criminal or something if I don't?

Does that give atheists the right to act condescending to me?

No, the problem is that once you stop filtering beliefs on evidence, your may start to find yourself accepting superstition as fact, and fact as superstition.

No, the problem is that once you stop filtering beliefs on evidence, your may start to find yourself accepting superstition as fact, and fact as superstition.
Except I know my beliefs from reality, and I know how to think for myself, and not being thought for by other people.

Except I know my beliefs from reality, and I know how to think for myself, and not being thought for by other people.
knowing from "reality" still isn't requiring evidence, it'd more signify a lack of proper evidence. science doesn't use perceived reality as proof for a reason

and i updated the OP with two good videos on Open Mindedness and Coincidences
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there's no 100% backing behind religion OR atheism. neither is sensible to put your belief into, lol.
I'm fine with religious people, but I'm infuriated by these two things:
1. when they try to convert other people or their children
2. when a politician bases his platform upon anything faith-based. you CANNOT lead anything, let alone a nation, by any method but pure logic.
Except I know my beliefs from reality, and I know how to think for myself, and not being thought for by other people.
if you think for yourself, then why are you religious? your parents wedged you into religious beliefs.

Except I know my beliefs from reality, and I know how to think for myself, and not being thought for by other people.

Then why do you believe in what isn't real?

there's no 100% backing behind religion OR atheism. neither is sensible to put your belief into, lol.
You either believe something, or you don't believe it.
What other way could there be?

there's no 100% backing behind religion OR atheism. neither is sensible to put your belief into, lol.

Atheism is the most sensible belief and complies with all the evidence, even if you take it as 'the belief of a lack of gods', rather than it's actual meaning 'the lack of belief of gods'

knowing from "reality" still isn't requiring evidence, it'd more signify a lack of proper evidence. science doesn't use perceived reality as proof for a reason

and i updated the OP with two good videos on Open Mindedness and Coincidences
Well that's what I meant.
there's no 100% backing behind religion OR atheism. neither is sensible to put your belief into, lol.
I'm fine with religious people, but I'm infuriated by these two things:
1. when they try to convert other people or their children
2. when a politician bases his platform upon anything faith-based. you CANNOT lead anything, let alone a nation, by any method but pure logic.if you think for yourself, then why are you religious? your parents wedged you into religious beliefs.
Atheism doesn't need to be justified, appearantly.

Then why do you believe in what isn't real?
Didn't I explain this already?

I do so because it feels right for me to do so. Is there a problem with that? I think there's a problem with that since you people are so hell-bent on getting me not to believe in my stupid fairy tale.

EDIT: @ Daed: True I was born into a religious belief, but what makes you think they're forcing me to be religious.
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