Author Topic: Abortion - Pro-life or Pro-choice  (Read 12523 times)

God is a little punk ass bitch and I'd fart in his face if he existed.
umad crhsitans?

I'd like to tell all of you folks that orphanages do not loving exist anymore

I'm not saying it's not a painful thing. I know it is.

What I am saying is that it is a big thing just to end something so big. Something that can accomplish just about anything.

You can recover from having an unprepared child. You can't recover from death. I don't care how much having a child affects you. No matter how much it affects you, it can't affect you more than being dead. Death is and always be the last say. Having a child will never reach that level.

I'm not really into abortion. It's a human baby. It may not have sentience, but it's alive. You can easily have it adopted

I'm not really into abortion. It's a human baby. It may not have sentience, but it's alive. You can easily have it adopted

I'm not really into cutting down trees. It's a Tree. It may not be sentient, buts it's alive!

I'd like to tell all of you folks that orphanages do not loving exist anymore
Wrong. You can take a child to any government building and they will take temporary custody of that child until they can locate what is now called a group home(a modern day orphanage).

If I had a daughter I would make her have that child because she was stupid enough to have unprotected love in the first place. Beside you don't have to kill an unborn child, you can give your baby to an orphanage and give someone who can't have kids of their own a chance.
you'd be a horrible father

"yeah so you have to have something grow inside you for 9 months and then go through immense pain and sickness to push it out. then after that you have to go through immense emotional pain and give it away - that'll teach you!"

having to get an abortion is punishment enough.
I'm not saying it's not a painful thing. I know it is.

What I am saying is that it is a big thing just to end something so big. Something that can accomplish just about anything.

You can recover from having an unprepared child. You can't recover from death. I don't care how much having a child affects you. No matter how much it affects you, it can't affect you more than being dead. Death is and always be the last say. Having a child will never reach that level.
again with the same "can accomplish anything" bullstuff logic. the environment it grows up in dictates what it can accomplish (most of the time). sure, everyone hears about the great people who come from nothing and rise up to amazing things - but all the people who don't do amazing things and end up in stuff conditions don't make headlines (that's called a confirmation bias).

if you're going to continue using that logic, you may as well go on a vendetta against people who decide to not even get pregant in the first place, because they're also denying the development of life that might do amazing things.

Pro life

Anyone who thinks that killing a child (call it what you want, fetus or not it's still a child) is acceptable has obviously lost all their morals. Simply trying to pretend that a growing baby isn't alive is absolutely ignorant and is one of the first fallacies of some of the pro-choice arguments. Don't want the baby? Don't get pregnant.

Just because your child might not be provided with the best life out there doesn't mean you have to get an abortion. There are alot of famous people out there who came from poor families. We wouldn't have the musical genius of people like Elvis presley if their parents chose to abort them.

If you don't even want the baby/cant support him/her, then give it up for adoption; there's better options out there besides killing it.

It doesn't surprise me at all now when some people try to present those ridiculous scenarios like "What if the women was raped". Chances are she wouldn't get pregnant if she took a contraception pill after the crime. Want to come up with a more ridiculous scenario that she was kidnapped too so she doesn't have access? She can always give the child up for adoption, assuming she and the child don't die. Or what if the woman was having complications from the pregnancy which she would eventually die from? Any mother who truly loves her child would do anything to protect her child's life- even sacrifice her own to protect it. A mother who loves herself more than her child is extremely selfish.

That is truly painful to see.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 08:30:26 PM by Planr »

I'm not really into cutting down trees. It's a Tree. It may not be sentient, buts it's alive!
Difference between your own offspring and a random creature that happens to be alive.

Just because your child might not be provided with the best life out there doesn't mean you have to get an abortion. There are alot of famous people out there who came from poor families. We wouldn't have the musical genius of people like Elvis presley if their parents chose to abort them.

Yes, and we wouldn't have Adolf Riddler if their parents chose to abort him

Then that string of words you typed have no relevance.
not sure what this apparently legendary "hobo argument" is but I said what boltster is saying

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what if op is just trying to turn us against eachother

you'd be a horrible father

"yeah so you have to have something grow inside you for 9 months and then go through immense pain and sickness to push it out. then after that you have to go through immense emotional pain and give it away - that'll teach you!"
Which is why I would teach her self control and how to protect herself so she doesn't do something that she will regret later on.

Yes, and we wouldn't have Adolf Riddler if their parents chose to abort him
What i'm saying is that the entire pro-choice argument is flawed. You grant women the right to choose whether or not to have children after getting pregnant yet you deny the child's very right to live.

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what if op is just trying to turn us against eachother
OP obviously did see this huge argument coming but either didn't care about it or simply wanted to create trouble.

Although abortion is morally wrong IMO it may eventually become a necessity on earth. Once we reach our population limit we will definitely have huger problems than what we have now already. It is proven to be an effective tool for population control. Unfortunate as it is, it may become a necessary evil one day.

But i'm hoping that by the time we reach that point we will have colonized other planets already.