Author Topic: I have a NON-CANCEROUS tumor in the brain area of my body :D  (Read 25687 times)

no one cares that your having fun, it's filling the thread with irrelevant bullstuff no one wants to see

my last post had about 11k characters, i think the limit is 20k?
Not sure. Never hit it.

is this relevant as a treatment option? i would assume there is evidence and sources you could cite about this because you mentioned it? i mean, i'm assuming the things you're saying are backed by scientific evidence due to your taking of that view.
Yeah, THC has some anticancer attributes. Now, this won't cure your cancer, but it sure doesn't hurt. However, if consuming a psychoactive drug intrudes upon your therapy, it's not a smart idea. But, since Gamefandan lives in California, he could easily get a medical marijuana card if he wanted to use it to his benefit.

best way i'm doing it is being lucky enough to see carriage returns and line breaks on the end of your responses
I don't understand, how do you "see" a carriage return? \r\n doesn't show visually besides the whole new line thing, which for some reason doesn't happen in the reply box, at least on Chrome.

just wondered what you thought about it. also, i read somewhere that you can't take more than a certain amount of vitamin C orally. so yeah. not to mention the drama surrounding Linux Pauling, the guy who dreamt the treatment up.
Well, since vitamin C is a weak acid, I'm not 100% positive that injecting it into your vein is a good idea.

it also worked for my mother, but i haven't brought her up because she's not interested in merging eastern and western medicine. she's spent a long portion of her life not using western medicine if she could avoid it, and instead going with oriental medicine, acupuncture primarily, herbs and 'moxa' which is basically heating certain points on the body with a herbal thing to cause changes.

she says that during her pregnancy with me, i went breach and she treated that with moxa and acupuncture. i allegedly corrected myself in three days and she did not have to go through a cescarian birth. she also says she used acupuncture for pain management during the birth and allegedly felt no pain. i'm taking that second point with a grain of salt, but for the purposes of this discussion we could consider it another testimonial.
I'm in no place to insult your mother, but that is pretty much exactly what I don't want people to do.

yes, and they are presumably safe. my point is that enough funding has not gone into the alternative treatments to get them approved by the FDA, therefore they are considered not safe.
The FDA doesn't handle herbal medicine either, it's pretty much regarded as hippie stuff by the government too.

first) i'm not really sure this is true
second) beyond the placebo effect, which, i might like to add, some treatments cause a greater result in this fashion than other treatments. also, as i said above, while there are studies showing it isn't effective, said studies are few and far between, likely due to the reasons i've been saying about how alt. medicine sends less money in the direction of the people who test and perscribe it.
third) these people are dumb, unless it works for them, such as my mother.
1) Think about it for a minute, treatments work because they have some kind of active ingredient. Active ingredients tend to clash with each other, regardless of synthetic or natural origin.
2) Well, the thing is, we're moving away from alt. medicine. There's a reason. It's been deemed ineffective, or at least significantly less effective than western medicine. This movement started a good while ago, that's why they've diverged into two categories, but it is undeniable that modern medicine sprung from herbal medicine.
3) Maybe your mother wouldn't have these problems in the first place if she just stuck with western medicine.

my mother was advised repeatedly to get a hysterectomy to remove fibroids from her body. she didn't go through with it, instead opting for alternative medicine. according to her, the radiologists and various other doctors were baffled when, a month (not sure on this detail) later, the fibroids in question had shrunk.
After some quick research, it appears uterine fibroids can shrink with reduction in estrogen levels. If there's some herb out there that lowers estrogen levels, then yeah, it'd work. Her doctors sound like handicaps, or she exaggerated her story and the doctors were merely surprised that such good remission occurred.

i've heard and seen the testimonials first and second and third hand myself, it does work. i'm not personally advocating diving in and trying it without a backup plan, but why not try it? again, what have you got to lose?
Your life.



For everyone being a richardwad and complaining about our discussion of herbal medicine, we're not stuffting on the topic. We're discussing Gamefandan's treatment options. Just because we're not saying 'get well' doesn't mean that our posts are cancerous to the topic. And read our posts, we're not talking about nuclear reactor physics that you'll never hear about again (though Lugnut, if you have an opinion on that I'd enjoy having that discussion too) we're talking about herbal remedies and medicines, something that you should be educated on should any of you become ill and have a choice between the two.

no one cares that your having fun, it's filling the thread with irrelevant bullstuff no one wants to see
This is the kind of stuff I was referring to. It's not irrelevant. You calling it irrelevant is irrelevant to the topic. Get the forget out.



What about that New treatment option where they take some of your cells and genetically modify them to fight off cancer cells obviously they inject the cells back into you to get it working, also before you say that what I'm saying is fake, look it up, I even saw it on TV.

I heard it really damn expensive but I think its worth loosing all your money instead of loosing all your hair and being weak for the rest of your life.

Nah, I think you're talking about this. I'm not sure how effective it is, I just read an article or two about it.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 06:47:28 PM by Slicks555 »

it's pretty damn irrelevant since none of it would do a thing, not to mention we don't even know if it's malignant or not

it's pretty damn irrelevant since none of it would do a thing, not to mention we don't even know if it's malignant or not
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ir·rel·e·vant/iˈreləvənt/
Adjective:
Not connected with or relevant to something.

God awful definition. Let's go with not relevant.

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Adjective:
Closely connected or appropriate to the matter at hand.

I'm pretty loving sure cancer treatment is connected and appropriate to the matter at hand.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 06:51:07 PM by Slicks555 »

Yeah, THC has some anticancer attributes. Now, this won't cure your cancer, but it sure doesn't hurt. However, if consuming a psychoactive drug intrudes upon your therapy, it's not a smart idea. But, since Gamefandan lives in California, he could easily get a medical marijuana card if he wanted to use it to his benefit.
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Now, this won't cure your cancer, but it sure doesn't hurt.
this is kind of along the lines of what i'm saying, not exactly, but kind of.
there's an option for you, game, smoke weed erry day
I don't understand, how do you "see" a carriage return? \r\n doesn't show visually besides the whole new line thing, which for some reason doesn't happen in the reply box, at least on Chrome.
well i'm copying this into notepad++ and then editing it, where the returns are more pronouced. i didn't really know how else to say 'return' or '\r\n' without sounding like a tool, and, as it turns out, i failed. no, i'm not magically seeing invisible ascii characters >.>
Well, since vitamin C is a weak acid, I'm not 100% positive that injecting it into your vein is a good idea.
i'm not either...
I'm in no place to insult your mother, but that is pretty much exactly what I don't want people to do.
i'm not advocating lack of a backup plan either, i'm saying it worked for her.
The FDA doesn't handle herbal medicine either, it's pretty much regarded as hippie stuff by the government too.
.... beeeeecause they haven't studied it. i think you're placing a little too much faith in our government. at the risk of sounding like some kind of a conspiracy theorist (scratch that, already broke that barrier 4 posts ago,) i'm not confident that the government isn't out for money over their people. what motivation do they have to make sure people are cured of their illnesses? you don't make money off of healthy people!
1) Think about it for a minute, treatments work because they have some kind of active ingredient. Active ingredients tend to clash with each other, regardless of synthetic or natural origin.
2) Well, the thing is, we're moving away from alt. medicine. There's a reason. It's been deemed ineffective, or at least significantly less effective than western medicine. This movement started a good while ago, that's why they've diverged into two categories, but it is undeniable that modern medicine sprung from herbal medicine.
3) Maybe your mother wouldn't have these problems in the first place if she just stuck with western medicine.
1) i'm pretty certain acupuncture needles don't count as an active ingredient? your statement seems to apply only to herbs, but there is a wide range of alt. treatments out in the world.
2) deemed ineffective why? because, yet again, the money has not been put into testing it in all fashions. you can test it one way, and you can test it the other. i'll admit alternative treatments are often not instantaneous like other methods, but they have been effective for me and countless other people. they aren't seeing the light of day. < this point feels poorly worded on my part
3) are you saying her health problems were caused by lack of western treatment? i'm not saying she went without doctor visits or anything, i'm saying she decided against surgery numerous times and went with a different method, and it worked.
After some quick research, it appears uterine fibroids can shrink with reduction in estrogen levels. If there's some herb out there that lowers estrogen levels, then yeah, it'd work. Her doctors sound like handicaps, or she exaggerated her story and the doctors were merely surprised that such good remission occurred.
my point is that they did not suggest some kind of a treatment involving lowering estrogen levels: they wanted surgery. ask yourself, which do they get better commissions for?
Your life.
i was under the impression that various forms of cancer do not have western/modern cures? so yes, your life. why not try all the options, if western medicine fails, ("uncurable cancer,") why not give eastern medicine a shot?



And read our posts, we're not talking about nuclear reactor physics that you'll never hear about again (though Lugnut, if you have an opinion on that I'd enjoy having that discussion too)
well that depends on if you're referring to how nuclear power works, or how much harm it's causing the environment? the latter is what i'm better versed in (read: i have no knowledge of the former.)
it's pretty damn irrelevant since none of it would do a thing, not to mention we don't even know if it's malignant or not
are you suggesting we ignore that possibility, not discuss treatment options, and twiddle our fingers until game gets back to us? sounds like a waste of time to me.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 07:11:22 PM by Lugnut »

so what happened to Dan?


i didn't really know how else to say 'return' or '\r\n' without sounding like a tool, and, as it turns out, i failed. no, i'm not magically seeing invisible ascii characters >.>
in microsoft office it saves the new lines as a pilcrow

this is kind of along the lines of what i'm saying, not exactly, but kind of.
there's an option for you, game, smoke weed erry day
lol.

well i'm copying this into notepad++ and then editing it, where the returns are more pronouced. i didn't really know how else to say 'return' or '\r\n' without sounding like a tool, and, as it turns out, i failed. no, i'm not magically seeing invisible ascii characters >.>
Oh, I see. I wish I was [insert antonym of lazy] enough to do that.

i'm not advocating lack of a backup plan either, i'm saying it worked for her.
Yeah, I get that, but she's following an ideology that's pretty dumb, not to be offensive.

.... beeeeecause they haven't studied it. i think you're placing a little too much faith in our government. at the risk of sounding like some kind of a conspiracy theorist (scratch that, already broke that barrier 4 posts ago,) i'm not confident that the government isn't out for money over their people. what motivation do they have to make sure people are cured of their illnesses? you don't make money off of healthy people!
I would say alt. medicine has been studied far more than modern medicine. Modern medicine started being used at about 1800, arguably so. The earliest date I can find of medicine being practiced is 3300 BC. That means from 3300 BC to 1800 (5,100 years) alt. medicine was used and studied actively. Compared to our measly 212 years, alt. medicine has a good 4,888 years on modern medicine. Also, I'm not quite sure if you were being sarcastic but the government makes far more money off of healthy people.

1) i'm pretty certain acupuncture needles don't count as an active ingredient? your statement seems to apply only to herbs, but there is a wide range of alt. treatments out in the world.
2) deemed ineffective why? because, yet again, the money has not been put into testing it in all fashions. you can test it one way, and you can test it the other. i'll admit alternative treatments are often not instantaneous like other methods, but they have been effective for me and countless other people. they aren't seeing the light of day. < this point feels poorly worded on my part
3) are you saying her health problems were caused by lack of western treatment? i'm not saying she went without doctor visits or anything, i'm saying she decided against surgery numerous times and went with a different method, and it worked.
1) acupuncture is based around bullstuff, and technically even though it itself is not an active ingredient essentially you being stabbed a million times causes a huge release of endorphins in your brain, so even though it in itself is not an active ingredient it utilizes an active ingredient.
2) Deemed ineffective because people weren't getting better. See: last point for testing.
3) I'm saying that if a doctor goes "Hmm, it looks like you might have cancer in your pusillanimous individual!" and she hadn't gone "Herbal time!" she might not have gotten to a point where they needed to perform surgery.

my point is that they did not suggest some kind of a treatment involving lowering estrogen levels: they wanted surgery. ask yourself, which do they get better commissions for?
I'm not positive surgeons work on commission. I'm pretty sure they work a yearly salary.

i was under the impression that various forms of cancer do not have western/modern cures? so yes, your life. why not try all the options, if western medicine fails, ("uncurable cancer,") why not give eastern medicine a shot?
Because you'll just die faster.



well that depends on if you're referring to how nuclear power works, or how much harm it's causing the environment? the latter is what i'm better versed in (read: i have no knowledge of the former.)
Well, I have a working knowledge of both.

All acupuncture does is make you not notice pain. Now I'm not saying all Eastern Medicines are stupid (they are, but that's not my point), I'm just saying that acupuncture CAN NOT heal you.


Also, be benign Gamefandan's tumor, please.

Now I'm not saying all Eastern Medicines are stupid (they are, but that's not my point)


I found this ironic and funny.

Lol, those are the five mana symbols of Magic the Gathering, not some Chinese hippie voodoo stuff. (Yes, I know China, hippies and voodoo are completely unrelated.)

Also, Gamefandan can't be Gamefandead. :(

slick555 and lugnuts discussion in a nutshell:
take all kinds of wacky drugs.

slick555 and lugnuts discussion in a nutshell:
take all kinds of wacky drugs.
yeah pretty much both sides of the thing here.

Mine you can't read, his you can't pronounce.

I have a counter argumen prepared, slick, it's just on my now-dead computer.

yeah pretty much both sides of the thing here.

Mine you can't read, his you can't pronounce.

I have a counter argumen prepared, slick, it's just on my now-dead computer.
Nice.