Author Topic: The Death Penalty: The Number Two Most Controversial Topic in BL EVER  (Read 15742 times)

It's not murder, it's execution. Murder is unlawful (if you live in a civilized world, at least) and execution is punishment. People don't want to die, so what better way to punish someone for murder? What normal person kills another in cold blood? Why would we want someone like that to walk our streets again?

Also, killing in self defense is not murder and doesn't call for execution. I know someone is going to sarcastically use that eventually.
it's called rehabilitation. we take the time to help these people and get them on the right track. we don't just kill them for convenience.

also, killing is killing. it doesn't matter how you label it, when you take another person's life you've killed that person

Solid, would you rather pay tax dollars keeping prisoners alive for their entire lives, or would you rather see them publicly executed for being an infant-eating devilbeast?  

Another idea I thought of was a forty strokes less one approach.  Nobody likes pain, and if you, say, whip them publicly forty times once a month for a year, unless they are literally insane, they will not do whatever crime.  If they murder somebody, maybe they could get forty strokes less one once a month for their entire lives.  
Because I can quote a prisoner.  He used to be an Irish Terrorist.  In an article about what happened to him throughout his life, he even said, "Prison didn't rehabilitate me." Plain and simple. 

You have to remember, prison isn't just a punishment, it's supposed to be justice.  Life in prison is a punishment that fits the crime, yes, but it is torture.  Most people would rather die than go to jail for life, and they do kill themselves.  I've seen throughout this that the death penalty doesn't in fact fit most scenarios, but maybe we shouldn't torture them, just make sure it cannot happen again.  Ever. 

Kill them or Whip them once a month for however many years.  Forty strokes, no more, no less. 
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 07:12:11 AM by morningstar »

Solid, would you rather pay tax dollars keeping prisoners alive for their entire lives, or would you rather see them publicly executed for being an infant-eating devilbeast?

For the fortieth loving time, the death penalty costs more than life in prison.

Oh,  still don't understand how maintainence, food, clothing, and paychecks for guards is all cheaper than putting a piece of lead in their head publicly.  
However, the death penalty would never last in our current legal system.  There's the trial, three appeals, etc.  I guess I can see how it is more expensive. 

The trouble is, I'm talking big big big cases.  Think of Jeffrey Dahmer.  If you did something bad enough, your inmates will hate you and beat you to DEATH
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 07:21:13 AM by morningstar »

You human rights for the inhuman say that death isn't penalty enough. Then you say that public or in prison beatings are inhuman (even though pain is a very effective stimulus on humans, everyone from the dumb to the smart, from the strong to the weak).

Your idea of punishment seems to be rehabilitation, which is really something more beneficial than a punishment. That leaves the offender unpunished. Encarceration is an option, you might argue. I agree, prison is a good option for minor offenders, but for the people like Jeffrey Dahmer should've been shot on sight. It's harder to escape a morgue than a prison.

I must bring out that the most deadly mass shootings, according to someone I heard on the radio, we're all in what Nymedus would call the civilized world, Europe where the cultured and civilized people would rehabilitate rather than just execute and END THE THREAT FOR GOOD. If you rehabilitate someone and let them go, they could very well kill another person despite your best efforts.

As far as method of least expense, feed them to a tiger or something. Save on tiger food and help preserve an endangered species. More productive than paying for a firing squad.

I agree with what morn said, the present legal system doesn't make it practical, you'd need some major reforms to happen.

It's harder to escape a morgue than a prison.

Death is an escape.

And as I said before, there's always a chance the inmate was wrongly convicted. See: West Memphis Three. Damien Echols was sentenced to death, but was later freed with an Alford Plea.

Funfact: There are only 3,170 inmates currently on death row, and only 1,295 have been executed since 1976. The death penalty does not solve prison overcrowding.

Don't just leave them on death row, end their miserable lives. 

How do you prevent society from turning people into murderers?
because if an 18 year old can't explain it to you in detail, it's IMPOSSIBLE. YUP.
No seriously we've talked so much about this I barely care to discuss it anymore.
Also in case you missed this part:
Because you don't kill people for convenience.

Sure you can, people do it all the time.  Why can't the gov't pick that up? 

this isnt the god damn dark ages. ever heard of rehabilitation?

Prison doesn't rehabilitate prisoners!  It makes them more flipping angry. 
You can't rehabilitate someone with prison, you're locking them in with even worse people. 

I'm telling you, whip them while theyre in prison. 

What if it was like Deadman Wonderland. I'd watch the stuff out of that.

Prison doesn't rehabilitate prisoners!  It makes them more flipping angry. 
You can't rehabilitate someone with prison, you're locking them in with even worse people. 

I'm telling you, whip them while theyre in prison. 

No one said prison rehabilitates anyone.

Also Nymethus I agree with you.

Solid, would you rather pay tax dollars keeping prisoners alive for their entire lives, or would you rather see them publicly executed for being an infant-eating devilbeast?  

Another idea I thought of was a forty strokes less one approach.  Nobody likes pain, and if you, say, whip them publicly forty times once a month for a year, unless they are literally insane, they will not do whatever crime.  If they murder somebody, maybe they could get forty strokes less one once a month for their entire lives.  
Because I can quote a prisoner.  He used to be an Irish Terrorist.  In an article about what happened to him throughout his life, he even said, "Prison didn't rehabilitate me." Plain and simple.  

You have to remember, prison isn't just a punishment, it's supposed to be justice.  Life in prison is a punishment that fits the crime, yes, but it is torture.  Most people would rather die than go to jail for life, and they do kill themselves.  I've seen throughout this that the death penalty doesn't in fact fit most scenarios, but maybe we shouldn't torture them, just make sure it cannot happen again.  Ever.  

Kill them or Whip them once a month for however many years.  Forty strokes, no more, no less.  
You're blowing this waaay bout of proportion. Also, absolutely no one that eats babies would be in prison, they would be in a mental asylum.

Also, in regard to prisoners wanting to kill themselves, they should be given an option to be executed or do life in prison

Sure you can, people do it all the time.  Why can't the gov't pick that up?  
No we can't. That's morally and logically wrong on so many levels. As the saying goes, an eye for an eye makes the world blind. We might as well execute every poor man that steals loafs of bread to survive.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 10:41:47 AM by Eluxsam »

Funfact: There are only 3,170 inmates currently on death row, and only 1,295 have been executed since 1976. The death penalty does not solve prison overcrowding.
We have so many people still on death row because someone can spend sometimes up to 14 goddamn years in prison before they finally get executed.