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HOW'S THE INFERNO?

IT'S FIRE
79 (68.7%)
IT'S A DUMPSTER FIRE
36 (31.3%)

Total Members Voted: 115

Author Topic: Team Fortress 2 Megatopic + Trade: SCREAM FORTRESS? MORE LIKE JUNGLE INFERNO!  (Read 2832580 times)

except you do. unless he ambushes you.
being ambushed means you forgeted up somewhere. you either a. didn't go around corners carefully enough (or in which case if there was no way to not get killed, your team should have told you about it meaning there should only be one death) b. you let a pyro get behind you and also didn't look behind yourself enough.

it's not the pyro's fault if you and your team can't work together.
WhoawhoawhoaWHOA

Whoa

Just what game are you playing where people actually work together?

except you do. unless he ambushes you.
being ambushed means you forgeted up somewhere. you either a. didn't go around corners carefully enough (or in which case if there was no way to not get killed, your team should have told you about it meaning there should only be one death) b. you let a pyro get behind you and also didn't look behind yourself enough.

it's not the pyro's fault if you and your team can't work together.
you act so smugly as if it's possible to evade ambushes altogether

isn't the point of an ambush that it's unexpected and a surprise?

you act so smugly as if it's possible to evade ambushes altogether

isn't the point of an ambush that it's unexpected and a surprise?
it is possible
it just takes a lot of extra caution and thought and teamwork

nothing is a surprise if you expect everything.



there's honestly no need to be rude, we're discussing a video game for christs sake
i'd rather you intellectually responded to my comment and told me why it's wrong rather than just dismissing it

there's honestly no need to be rude, we're discussing a video game for christs sake
i'd rather you intellectually responded to my comment and told me why it's wrong rather than just dismissing it
this is honestly a carbon copy of the ambassador "debate"

you act like a total prick by saying "my point is correct because it only works for myself," e.g. "the ambassador is better than revolver because it has better damage output because I hit headshots every time" and now this "you must be really bad at the game if you get hit by pyros because I'm 100% vigilant with my 720 degree vision and ugc gold team doing callouts"

we may be discussing a video game, but you're attacking people personally. here's your medicine.









got these new loadouts finished holla (spy has been done for a while i just never used speks with it)
though i wish i had some graybanns rather than speks but it's fine


you should paint the beard brown and put on the warrior's spirit

you act like a total prick by saying "my point is correct because it only works for myself,"
except it doesn't only work for me
and i'm not the only one arguing for it

" e.g. "the ambassador is better than revolver because it has better damage output because I hit headshots every time"
i never said that. i said if you hit headshots all the time (which i clearly stated i don't) the ambassador has a better dps and thus is technically better than the revolver. just forget about this actually, it won't end well. don't reply to this part.

"you must be really bad at the game if you get hit by pyros because I'm 100% vigilant with my 720 degree vision and ugc gold team doing callouts"
never said that either, you're putting words in my mouth.
i get ambushed by pyros all the time, but the loadout isn't overpowered because it's completely my fault. when i die to a pyro it's my fault. i wasn't careful enough or i ran into him.

but you're attacking people personally
I don't get why you're trying to make me look like the villain in this? I'm just responding to a comment that I disagree with. What's fine with comments such as these?:

WhoawhoawhoaWHOA

Whoa

Just what game are you playing where people actually work together?
I've been using the Degreaser since i got it a long time ago, i wasn't asking that as if i didn't know how good it was, silly!
If you don't do the so called 'Puff and Sting' tactic, you get mocked for being a W+M1 Pyro for even the slightest use of the primary weapon, but if you use the Puff and Sting combo, people call you OP

Thing is, they use those tactics because it's what works the best, most of the people who play this game just want to play and have fun and kill people and not be killed, doing these tactics does that for people, they don't want to die a lot trying to master this new loadout they conjured up to show how pro or skilled they are, they just want to play and enjoy the game
But it's true, a Pyro can't combat you at long range, a lot of classes can fight at mid to long range and easily take care of a Pyro

The only way a Pyro can be long rage is with the flare guns, but the flares are easily avoidable
Wow, why did I never think of that?????
Yes, that IS what most Pyros use, and that's part of what I don't like about it

Pyro has become this absurd almost-always-instant-kill-combo class instead of what I believe was originally supposed to be an ambush class (some may argue that the Combo Pyro can still ambush people, and this is true, but you used to have to hold the flames on someone for a few seconds to kill them at which point they could turn around and retaliate, but now it's just poof BAM and they're dead) to the point that most Pyros rarely use their Flamethrowers to actually throw flames unless they're igniting someone so they can switch to the Flare Gun or Axtinguisher and I will always hate that decision on Valve's end

I don't normally care how people play the game (unless our team is stuck at the gate for five minutes and we've got four Spies) but when there is such an obviously overpowered loadout like this that everyone uses instead of stock I have to wonder how Valve can make all these changes to various items like the Equalizer/Escape Plan because people use them too much but they don't even touch the Pyro, STAR mentioned in one of his latest videos that it worried him that there were no changes to Pyro weapons in the update because that means Valve thinks the class is balanced, and I didn't even think of that at first but I find it incredibly irritating

The Degreaser sacrifices afterburn for weapon switch, but when you can almost instantly kill anyone by using 1 ammo to light them on fire, airblast them into the air, and seal their fate with a few Reserve Shooter shots, Flare Gun flares, or an Axtinguisher swing, who the forget needs it? Afterburn doesn't even matter most of the time, because chances are there's a Medic or a medkit close enough that if the person gets away they'll reach one in time, so it's not even a fair trade-off, it's a direct upgrade
anything with degreaser is almost too good.
Gotta be honest though, hate your weapon loadout with a passion

Please, if you only respond to one part of this post make it this part: What's the difference between my posts and the ones above? I'm saying I disagree with something or someone and posting why and my opinions. You know, people can disagree and debate and still be fine with others. I don't feel the need to think of say, Regulith or Khorde, as bad people or be rude to them just because we disagree on some video game weapons and I'd hope that they think the same way.

EDIT: Well if you aren't going to respond I guess there's nothing I can do. If I don't respond to your non-response it looks like you're on a higher ground than me and if I respond saying you're cowardly and just couldn't come up with an argument it looks like I'm trying to make a fight. I guess I'll just post these few sentences instead. Nothing I can really do, even though next time you call me a prick and smug I'd rather you didn't just walk off!
« Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 06:26:24 PM by Freeze »



I'm selling my Strange Flare Gun and my Red Army Robin for a key each.



direct hit is more of a lulzy weapon imo. i love using it, to slam low hp classes in the face with, and smashing the stuff out of sentries, but the minus splash damage makes it more of like a sniper than a rocket launcher lel