Author Topic: Hundreds of rape victims loveually harassed at once by batstuff crazy man  (Read 11427 times)

Partially, yes. Not legally accountable however. The assailant gets 90% of the blame.
Thank you, that's all I needed.

Whoa. Stop right there. I never said or implied this. These are your words. The crime committer is responsible for the crime, but moreso than the victim. The victim is at fault however for not doing everything she could to avoid being the victim. Such as carrying a gun with her or dressing more modestly.

actually yes it is... no matter how unfair it is.

there are far to many things in the world you are expecting to change so that woman can live perfect and safe without having to do a thing for themselves.
that is not the real world, nor is it an acceptable solution to stopping rape...

"make the world perfect so guys wont want to rape woman"
sounds easy right?

"I" cant even leave the house, go shopping, do anything from day to day without personal responsibility.
if a crime occurs, i cant say "well the world shouldnt be this way" wtf is that lol.

i cant not take responsibility because i know crime is bad. wtf kind of way to live in this world is that? i would be dead by now.
I'm not saying we have to make the world perfect, nor am I saying women shouldn't be aware that rape happens, but you can't blame a woman for something as innocent as going outside as provoking rape. I'm not saying wearing slutty clothes doesn't make you more likely to be a target, but rape is a crime of weak, abusive people with no self control who cannot contain their loveual urges. To put any blame on the victim of an occurrence, is  just distasteful and disrespectful.

Thank you, that's all I needed.
I'm glad we agree on this. This was the point i've been making the entire time. The assailant is never innocent. That's simply dumb.
However I can never ignore it when I know that the victim had unintentionally set themself up in a bad situation. They are not legally at fault for this but they should have done better.


I already knew Planr was a loving moron, but this topic convinced me even more.

I'm only going to mention that wearing more protective clothing does slow down a rapist and can garner a girl some extra time to call for help and/or struggle before she is violated. It's a sad thing that rape happens, but there are some precautions which should be taken to ensure it happens less often. Granted (as a comparison), people might still break into your house regardless if the doors are locked or not, but you can still slow them down if you engage the locks.

I'm only going to mention that wearing more protective clothing does slow down a rapist and can garner a girl some extra time to call for help and/or struggle before she is violated. It's a sad thing that rape happens, but there are some precautions which should be taken to ensure it happens less often. Granted (as a comparison), people might still break into your house regardless if the doors are locked or not, but you can still slow them down if you engage the locks.
Indeed. This is 100% true.

I'm glad we agree on this. This was the point i've been making the entire time. The assailant is never innocent. That's simply dumb.
However I can never ignore it when I know that the victim had unintentionally set themself up in a bad situation. They are not legally at fault for this but they should have done better.
You're blaming a murder victim for being murdered. Let me repeat that: You're blaming a murder victim for being murdered. I've seen a lot of ignorance on this forum, and a lot of it has come from older adults who should really know better. But this really, really takes the cake.

I'm done with you. I can't wrap my mind around you.

i can't formulate an actual argument beyond attempts at insults and restating the same vague point everyone has been making so i'm going to pretend you're not there

You're blaming a murder victim for being murdered. Let me repeat that: You're blaming a murder victim for being murdered. I've seen a lot of ignorance on this forum, and a lot of it has come from older adults who should really know better. But this really, really takes the cake.

I'm done with you.
You stated that alot simpler than i'm trying to make it out to be. I am not simply "blaming" anyone 100% for crimes committed against them. There are always different factors to take into account when reasoning out the blame, both in the legal sense and what they should have or ought to have done. It isn't a simple "she's dead and it's her fault", it's "she's dead, but she could have done this to try to defend herself, but she didn't and so she's dead".

I base blame not only on who did what, but who didn't do what to help avoid it.

Good to see Plant still being completely unknowledgable about everything.
Never change, you dumb bastard.

the whole womans empowerment thing comes from the woman being ashamed they werent empowered BEFORE they were raped.
they didnt give this much stuff some time ago, thus the attitude led to their rape. no self esteem, no means, werent loud enough, werent smart enough. oh well.

i bet these chicks aint getting raped NOW, thats for sure lol.
but woman must learn the hard way i guess

the whole womans empowerment thing comes from the woman being ashamed they werent empowered BEFORE they were raped.
they didnt give this much stuff some time ago, thus the attitude led to their rape. no self esteem, no means, werent loud enough, werent smart enough. oh well.

i bet these chicks aint getting raped NOW, thats for sure lol.
but woman must learn the hard way i guess
bisjac, i agree with you 99% of the time, but you're going too far now

so rape is the 1 crime in existence were there was nothing the victims could have done to avoid or stop right?
this dosnt apply to any other crime. the victims get a pat on the back and a police report. "good luck next time"
but not rape. its unique in that no other crime is so spontaneous and magical.

thats the ridiculous lie you are being taught. and also the same reason why rape is still occurring at such rates.

dusty, planr, qwepir, bisjac
seems like an average ill-thought out debate thread