Author Topic: Elementary school shooting. ~28 dead, 20 children, 6-7 teachers, 1 shooter  (Read 20091 times)

I don't think everyone should be able to have a gun. I don't think I'd trust the majority of people out there with guns

Fight guns with more guns.

Blockland Forum Logic 2012 Slaughter Edition®

Look at the UK, now look back at your country, now look back at the UK. Notice something?


awful shiloads of knife crimes going on. hell of a lot of it actually, even for US standards.

you mean stopping guns dosnt stop knife violence?

criminals dont care about gun laws. they will have them regardless, only loving everyone else.

why dont you compare it more to Switzerland instead? mandatory guns. some of the lowest crime rate on earth.

Fight guns with more guns.

Blockland Forum Logic 2012 Slaughter Edition®

Look at the UK, now look back at your country, now look back at the UK. Notice something?

A criminal walks into a cafe and points a gun at a person, starts shooting, a person stands up and pulls out a gun, starts firing back.

The criminal's defeat is more likely now since this citizen has a gun.

A criminal walks into a cafe and points a gun at a person, starts shooting, a person/s] everyone in the store  stands up and pulls out a gun, starts firing back.

The criminal's defeat is more likely now since this citizen has a gun. imminent and unavoidable.

plus the UK was enslaved from the beginning anyways. lol
we escaped their stuff with guns. thats why we arent your slaves still.

there wont be anyone to shoot. the guy will be dead already.

this is the problem with americans now. they have become 100% dependent.
if its not welfare checks and food stamps, its when the police will save them from any and all things.

police are unreliable. this school shooting proves that.

Well, lets look at some other nations and see how they are faring with their issues of internal violence and their policies for gun control. How about Poland?

In the United States, there were 16799 deaths (2009) from homicide, 11,000 involved a firearm.

In Poland, there were 493 deaths (2009) from homicide , 15 of which were from firearms.

There are over 310 MILLION nonmilitary firearms in the United States which is almost 1 per every man woman and child with a population of 314 million. In Poland, there are only 510,000 with a population of 38 million.

Currently my father is over in Poland on business and from talking to the locals, gun related violence is virtually unheard of, and he's currently in a metropolitan area.


So why is it, that when we have more firearms than any other nation in the world, that we end up shooting each other? I do agree with you to a point, banning guns will not solve the problem but it would certainly help. Guns are the equalizer and feed you a sense of power. I'm sure someone would be less willing to kill someone else if they had to use something else besides a firearm. But, there would still be those people who would still be willing.

When it comes to gun control, I don't think people look deep enough. We've been bred into a world where materialism and consumerism permeates our everyday lives. Violence is often glorified in our culture and the stress of our everyday lives certainly isn't healthy for our mindset. If people really want to put a massive damper on mass shootings and homicide, then they'll look at the way our society functions. Gun control helps, but it doesn't address the fundamental issues that drive us to violence and both need to happen in order for us to see a change
« Last Edit: December 14, 2012, 02:27:37 PM by Thar »

I wonder why the national socialists forgeted poland so hard.

banning guns will not solve the problem but it would certainly help

criminals dont care about gun laws. a 100% gun ban would still forget the citizens against criminals.

why there are crimes is completely unrelated to having/not having guns. the US are just jerks to each other. thats not really gun related.

I was going to post a response but Thar made it redundant. ^ This is truth.

I wonder why the national socialists forgeted poland so hard.

Geopolitical occurances, especially ones that involve total war do are not as easily influenced by untrained citizens with handguns.

criminals dont care about gun laws. a 100% gun ban would still forget the citizens against criminals.

why there are crimes is completely unrelated to having/not having guns. the US are just jerks to each other. thats not really gun related.

Poland has stricter regulation and they don't live in a society like us.

If you want to stop violence, you can't just strip away firearms and expect everything to be better, you have to also address the core drivers of violence.

yeah, like having access to a gun dosnt incite a person to commit crimes. today, these 2 gunman could have just walked in with knives and easily killed just as many people.

we have high crimes for a million reasons that we cant spend time getting into. weapons in any form may or may not be used, it dosnt really have anything to do with weapons being bad lol.

Geopolitical occurances, especially ones that involve total war do are not as easily influenced by untrained citizens with handguns.
Lol, yes it does.

What have we come to?

loving insane people killing kids who only lived 8 years, and have done nothing wrong.

It's common sense. From a criminal standpoint I have the advantage because I have no qualms illegally obtaining a weapon and using it against people with the disadvantage of having no form of self defense. Eliminating firearms from the civilian population is a load of horse hockey. If you think its a good idea, you probably think that human nature isn't inherently "survival of the fittest" and more prone to being united in a one world utopia where everyone is a nice guy.

also update possibly. the second gunman is in the towns church threatening to kill himself. cops arent there yet.