Author Topic: Opinion about gun control?  (Read 20621 times)

Ban guns alltogether, and any guns should be only for military use.
That's oppression in a fairly pure form. The government would have nothing to fear and there would be no liberty

Countries like Britain have had little civilian (and even police, most general police forces in Britain have no guns, just batons) interaction with guns for a long time. America has been around for 400 years and has had the biggest relation with guns out of probably any country in the world. Stack that on top of our organized crime, our militaristic media that constantly shove violence down our throats and the general stufftiness of people and our mental care system and you've got the absolute worst-case scenario for gun violence. There's no turning back now; there never was.

That's oppression in a fairly pure form. The government would have nothing to fear and there would be no liberty
I'm pretty sure liberty is already gone... but I thought the government is afraid of guns?

damnit

making them illegal will only make things worse

Reagan would know what to do. <3

it's funny because most gun crimes are done with illegally obtained weapons, banning more guns won't do anything because people who legally own firearms will not buy the banned firearms anyway.

it's funny because most gun crimes are done with illegally obtained weapons, banning more guns won't do anything because people who legally own firearms will not buy the banned firearms anyway.
^
this
so much

if you want to control shootings, you have to stop gangs and organised crime and such.

if you want to control shootings, you have to stop gangs and organised crime and such.

the Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Sandy Hill shootings were not committed by people affiliated with gangs or organized crime

not sure how cutting out gangs would help
« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 06:55:29 PM by Darkness ZXW »

Don't control the guns control the people that use the guns.

Wow, you gun nuts thinking that guns are a major force in stopping gun violence are really stupid.

the Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Sandy Hill shootings were not committed by people affiliated with people who were connected with gangs or organized crime

not sure how cutting out gangs would help
Cutting out gangs would help with crime all together.
But we can't just "get rid" of all the gangs.

They can help, but it's almost impossible to get every american to give up arms, and if you own a 3D printer you can just make your own guns anyhow.

the Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and Sandy Hill shootings were not committed by people affiliated with gangs or organized crime

not sure how cutting out gangs would help
they were forgeted up white people
also i'm pretty sure gang violence kills more annually than public shootings do

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

If that's how George Washington thought that's how it should be for us, then I can't help but agree in my own opinion.

•Ban any weapon that can fire at an RPM of above 10
(60 seconds, 10 rounds, that's 1 round every 6 seconds)
•Ban explosive devices (aside from fireworks / industrial-grade explosives for mining/similars
•Ban calibers .30+
link for reference
•Require a class 1 license for any type of firearm (not including airsoft/paintball, though at altered PSIs they can be just as deadly)

In most cases, that is what it's like today. And it's fine as is. This Conn. shooting? Yeah, tragic. Does it mean that guns are horrible and that we need to remove them from every home and never ever ever EVER let ANYONE aside from a grunt out in the field touch a gun? no.

Bad people exist. People who would hurt, rape, murder, rob or just ruin your life given the chance. Though I cannot conceal carry, once I move out of my parents house and am on my own, I plan to get a CC license and keep a .45 pistol on me at all times (given that it's legal in said location). Referring back to an old joke I heard and skipping straight to the punch line; if you call the police for a POSSIBLE robbery, you aren't guaranteed jack diddly squat. If you call the police and let them know you have said thief in a half nelson with a .45 pistol to his skull, your response time varies greatly.

I've mentioned this once before, but as a member of the HDAA, every time they send out a weekly e-mail discussing how to best protect your home/family/self, the #1 thing they always recommend? Your own fast response. If your cooking and they bust in through the front door; throw a knife and get to them while they're distracted. Too far away? Grab the closest weapon (this is all assuming you don't carry a firearm on you) you can find and make a dash for it (though they always write these e-mails in the form of the typical family man's point of view, so they always say defend your family and stand your ground if they are there and can't escape.)

Overall, what happened in Connecticut is tragic, but it isn't the government's fault. If a man ODs, it isn't the pharmacy's fault unless they didn't tell him NOT to overuse the drug. Same thing applies here. The weapon belonged to the mother of the shooter, and he took it from her possession. He wasn't well. You know what happens when sick people come to power? people die. You know what happens when sick people come to power in a group? they form a group and ruin everyone's day.