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I still find it odd how AMD are adding 8 cores to there prossers and 6 ghz but intel are sticking with 4 and 3.50 ghz and yet still are more money and better?
Also how does a GTX 280 stand up today?
I'm a fan of AMD processing but I have to say that they are overkilling with the 8cores.

I'm a fan of AMD processing but I have to say that they are overkilling with the 8cores.

Not really considering their 8 core cpus really aren't that amazing. If I remember correctly their 8 core cpus are actually 4 pairs of 2 cores instead of being 8 individual cores. Also cores and clock speeds aren't what make cpus powerful. It's about the architecture that they use.

Not really considering their 8 core cpus really aren't that amazing. If I remember correctly their 8 core cpus are actually 4 pairs of 2 cores instead of being 8 individual cores. Also cores and clock speeds aren't what make cpus powerful. It's about the architecture that they use.
a post from someone who knows little about CPU's

hyperthreading is when there are virtual cores instead of physical cores, Intel is the only company who uses hyperthreading on a majority of their processors, and there is no issue with it (if done correctly), AMD fx series 8 cores have 8 physical cores.

Architecture is the overall build of a CPU, and how each piece interacts with another.

Clock speeds are a great way to see how effective an architecture is.  A better architecture will produce better clock speeds.

Cores are the equivalent of bandwidth, how much information can be processed at a certain time, the mores cores, the more information at any given moment.

Clock Speeds are how fast each core can do those processes. Higher clock speeds mean that it will process the information faster.

The cache plays into it as well, and isn't referred to very often, but it plays a lot larger of a part.

Overall, saying clock speed and cores doesn't matter but architecture does is like saying when building a house, materials don't matter, but the blueprint does.

They go hand in hand, one affects the other.

Better architectures aren't derived solely from clock speeds. A giant part of it is the number of instructions per clock that a processor can handle. If a processor can do the same amount of work as another with a lower clock speed and a higher IPC, it has a superior architecture but neither processor is better than the other.

Better architectures aren't derived solely from clock speeds. A giant part of it is the number of instructions per clock that a processor can handle. If a processor can do the same amount of work as another with a lower clock speed and a higher IPC, it has a superior architecture but neither processor is better than the other.
I literally said that.

Cores are the equivalent of bandwidth, how much information can be processed at a certain time, the mores cores, the more information at any given moment.

I'm a fan of AMD processing but I have to say that they are overkilling with the 8cores.
unless you're doing some hardcore computing you don't need 8 physical cores.  intel's hyperthreaded processors are much more suited for consumers that want great cpu performance despite being more expensive.

I literally said that.

I was responding to this:
A better architecture will produce better clock speeds.

unless you're doing some hardcore computing you don't need 8 physical cores.  intel's hyperthreaded processors are much more suited for consumers that want great cpu performance despite being more expensive.
Ah. I prefer AMD because its cheaper and they are still good. I'm not looking for anything above 60fps anyways.

Also my rig went down in price. I now have a $19.55 opening and I was wondering if I should get a optical drive or just reuse the one in this PC. (Its a sata but its old, and I'd have to put it back in afterwords for my sisters)
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Help me choose my card.
ASUS
Good: Lower shipping and a mail in rebate
Bad: Lower clock rates
GIGABYTE
Good: 3 fans, cooler, DirectX 11.1
Bad: Louder, bigger (11.6 in)
MSI
Good: Quiet
Bad: Warmer
Zotec
Good: Higher clock rates, smaller
Bad: No reviews (?)

I was responding to this:
oh stuff, didn't realize I said that, I meant to include that other variables are a less major underlying factor as well, my apologies.

http://tinyurl.com/nhwahvm
Help me choose my card.
ASUS
Good: Lower shipping and a mail in rebate
Bad: Lower clock rates
GIGABYTE
Good: 3 fans, cooler, DirectX 11.1
Bad: Louder, bigger (11.6 in)
MSI
Good: Quiet
Bad: Warmer
Zotec
Good: Higher clock rates, smaller
Bad: No reviews (?)
Asus, I've always had good experiences with Asus, that or MSI

Also my rig went down in price. I now have a $19.55 opening and I was wondering if I should get a optical drive or just reuse the one in this PC. (Its a sata but its old, and I'd have to put it back in afterwords for my sisters)
This was lost because I edited as another post came in. Is this drive worth the money? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24ns95

http://tinyurl.com/nhwahvm
Help me choose my card.
ASUS
Good: Lower shipping and a mail in rebate
Bad: Lower clock rates
GIGABYTE
Good: 3 fans, cooler, DirectX 11.1
Bad: Louder, bigger (11.6 in)
MSI
Good: Quiet
Bad: Warmer
Zotec
Good: Higher clock rates, smaller
Bad: No reviews (?)
don't get zotac it looks like stuff smeared over 2 oven fans
about clockings, it doesn't really matter because it seems all of them come with overclocking support so you can easily tweak them to match competitors cards
at this point its just about user ratings, how loud, and looks

in order from ratings its asus, gigabyte, and best ratings from msi
i would probably get the msi one because it seems to be also the most quiet one, but im not sure on that

loving microcenter
so i ordered a corsair h60 cooler from microcenter, it was 10 or 20 bucks off at the time
so i thought that if i don't like it, ill probably return it
RMA's have to be made within 10 days of purchase
the package came on the 9th day

forget you microcenter

In that case you could save it for when you need it?

In that case you could save it for when you need it?
yeah, but still 60 bucks is a large sum of money