[MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments

[Bisjac]

I think ext4 is faster, but I don't actually know.

$2700 I'm crying.

that is way way WAY to much for those specs. i could get (even a laptop) with twice the power for that price

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[Pentium]

Bought a 27" iMac the other day, looking forward to the beautiful 27" 1440p IPS goodness

NVIDIA GeForceGT755M 1GB GDDR5
3.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i5
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM-2X4GB
1TB Fusion Drive

£1600/$2700 AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL

I know that Macs are more expensive than PC's, but that's just ridiculous. Seriously, where is the money going? It'd be a little understandable if you paid a prenium for the OS, but even the upgrades are ludicrously overpriced. It doesn't even use particularly high-quality parts. Also, why does a desktop PC use laptop parts?
To put it into perspective, here's a noob build I put together: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Chipskate/saved/4ysv
It'd be the same as the as the iMac if you add a fancy mouse and keyboard, and has much higher-quality components. Oh, and did I mention you can turn it into a Hackintosh?

[Rub]

Equivalent 27" 1440p Dell monitor is about £600, £1000 ish for the computer, plus it looks beautiful as a piece of furniture in my living room. Definitely good value for money imo.

[Ghille]

So yea, I'm pretty lost right now. As said before, I'm looking for a good build around the 500$-ish range (including an OS) that can run most modern games at at least medium settings at a frame rate of around 45-60. Is this even possible?

[Treynolds416]

So yea, I'm pretty lost right now. As said before, I'm looking for a good build around the 500$-ish range (including an OS) that can run most modern games at at least medium settings at a frame rate of around 45-60. Is this even possible?

ya

If you build it yourself

[Bisjac]

So yea, I'm pretty lost right now. As said before, I'm looking for a good build around the 500$-ish range (including an OS) that can run most modern games at at least medium settings at a frame rate of around 45-60. Is this even possible?

Including the windows that gets very hard. Try a key that's written on a label on an old computer that family has. Or use Linux even though it sucks.
400ish dollars for a gaming build us nearly impossible

[nerraD]

Bought a 27" iMac the other day, looking forward to the beautiful 27" 1440p IPS goodness

NVIDIA GeForceGT755M 1GB GDDR5
3.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i5
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM-2X4GB
1TB Fusion Drive

£1600/$2700 AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL

I'm saving up for one of them for my college courses. That's if I don't stop spending it on food.
They're gorgeous, my mate has one in his room and it looks so simplistic and productive.

[SPooK]

I'm saving up for one of them for my college courses. That's if I don't stop spending it on food.
They're gorgeous, my mate has one in his room and it looks so simplistic and productive.

You sound like you've been brainwashed or something lol

[Ghille]

Including the windows that gets very hard. Try a key that's written on a label on an old computer that family has. Or use Linux even though it sucks.
400ish dollars for a gaming build us nearly impossible

I just realized I still have n old laptop hanging around somewhere, I can just get the OS from that. Now what can we work with?

[Treynolds416]

I'm saving up for one of them for my college courses. That's if I don't stop spending it on food.
They're gorgeous, my mate has one in his room and it looks so simplistic and productive.

or you could just get any other computer for half the price and still be able to afford food

[nerraD]

You sound like you've been brainwashed or something lol

Not at all, apple have great pieces of technology! I just don't enjoy iPhones anymore.

or you could just get any other computer for half the price and still be able to afford food

Or I could get an iMac and stop spending my money on endless supplies of pizza. :)

[Treynolds416]

Not at all, apple have great pieces of technology! I just don't enjoy iPhones anymore.

definitely brainwashing

In all seriousness though, apple takes average consumer-grade parts, packages it up with a featureless OS, and charges 200% component markup
As opposed to any other system builder that takes average consumer-grade parts, packages it up with windows, and charges 150% component markup
As opposed to building it yourself in which you take average consumer-grade parts, use a phillips head screwdriver to package it yourself, and it costs exactly what it's worth

[Rub]

definitely brainwashing

In all seriousness though, apple takes average consumer-grade parts, packages it up with a featureless OS, and charges 200% component markup
As opposed to any other system builder that takes average consumer-grade parts, packages it up with windows, and charges 150% component markup
As opposed to building it yourself in which you take average consumer-grade parts, use a phillips head screwdriver to package it yourself, and it costs exactly what it's worth

Can't use XCode on anything else though. People have uses for Macs, sorry you can't afford one though :(

[Treynolds416]

Can't use XCode on anything else though. People have uses for Macs, sorry you can't afford one though :(

There's definitely a market for them, and I don't doubt their uses at all
But, if you're under some impression that their price premium is justified solely on their "build quality" you'd be wrong. If you think the price premium is justified based on use case and you don't need any of the features provided by a different OS and you don't feel confident building a hackintosh, there's nothing wrong with buying from apple. It's when buying from apple turns to fanboyism that it becomes a dumb thing to do

[Pentium]

Equivalent 27" 1440p Dell monitor is about £600, £1000 ish for the computer, plus it looks beautiful as a piece of furniture in my living room. Definitely good value for money imo.

Rub, an iMac doesn't have £1000 worth of components in it, nowhere near it. I put together a build using Swedish prices, and I only got to about £700. I also found a 27" Dell IPS for £200 less than the £600 one, with no difference between the panels. Sum: about £1100, with a 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD. In comparison, a 27" iMac costs about £1700 without the fusion drive. Not only is my build cheaper, but the components are higher quality and easier to upgrade; several free PCI-e slots, multiple hard drive bays, power supply with lots of connectors, everything removable/installabe using only a Philips screwdriver and you don't have to use tape to reseal the case.