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The US owns most of it's own debt.

It just doesn't seem like a hot issue to me. It seems more important to do things like, I don't know, repair our economy than worry about what type  of energy we're using. Yes, it's a problem, and it shouldn't be ignored, but we clearly don't have enough money to go around as it is so it seems like what we do have should go to the more important interests of America.
The reason our economy sucks is based around energy and jobs. If there was a bill that forced companies to hire workers in the United States instead of overseas, then we would have many jobs. If this could be done, I don't know.

As for the war, the military spends approximately $925 billion dollars on the military, per year. Now, if we reduced this to a crazy $350 billion dollars per year and got out of the Middle East, we could be saving ourselves some hefty dollars. Plus, using the oil from Alaska and Texas would also bring down Gas Prices.

I say we turn human fat into fuel for our cars.

Take pony poop, convert it into methane gas.

I say we turn human fat into fuel for our cars.
Okay, we'll start with you. *Pulls out Knife*

Take pony poop, convert it into methane gas.
Vermin Supreme 2016!

The reason our economy sucks is based around energy and jobs. If there was a bill that forced companies to hire workers in the United States instead of overseas, then we would have many jobs. If this could be done, I don't know.

As for the war, the military spends approximately $925 billion dollars on the military, per year. Now, if we reduced this to a crazy $350 billion dollars per year and got out of the Middle East, we could be saving ourselves some hefty dollars. Plus, using the oil from Alaska and Texas would also bring down Gas Prices.
The reason our economy sucks is because of greedy people and tons of government programs (a large portion of them created by FDR and Bush, Jr.)

Getting rid of military spending would just save places like Korea or Iran the effort of fighting us

Okay, we'll start with you. *Pulls out Knife*
No you! We can kill two birds with one stone by eliminating obesity and our energy crCIA. You'll all see!

frankly, that's not true.
first of all, we're currently developing flexible and paper-thin solar panels that generate electricity for 40 cents a watt. stuffty fossil fuels are being challenged more and more every day.
biofuels made from synthesized algae are another great option.

dude fixing our energy crCIA will eliminate foreign oil dependencies. no more wars to spend money and lives on, and no more foreign oil to buy.
better economy.

Well, first off the war in the middle east isn't entirely based on foreign oil. That's a pretty naive thing to say. That said, it's also pretty naive to say it's purely against terrorism. Regardless, the war we're fighting there is also to aid foreign nations so even if we solve our foreign oil dependency the war would not be over.

Second, what I said is true. Have you looked at the efficiency of solar panels lately? 1 square foot of solar panel ~= 10 watts. The average oil turbine runs at 480 megawatts, or 480,000,000 watts. That's 48,000,000 square feet of solar paneling. Also, solar panels only work during the day. :S

Well, first off the war in the middle east isn't entirely based on foreign oil. That's a pretty naive thing to say. That said, it's also pretty naive to say it's purely against terrorism. Regardless, the war we're fighting there is also to aid foreign nations so even if we solve our foreign oil dependency the war would not be over.

Second, what I said is true. Have you looked at the efficiency of solar panels lately? 1 square foot of solar panel ~= 10 watts. The average oil turbine runs at 480 megawatts, or 480,000,000 watts. That's 48,000,000 square feet of solar paneling.
Quick get proof before Pixel and Fredelus show up!

Getting rid of military spending would just save places like Korea or Iran the effort of fighting us
1) North Korea would never attack us. They have been trying for years and can kind of shoot a rocket. Honestly, it would cost very little money to attack Pyongyang. As for Iran, I'm not saying we kill the military. But do they need near to $1 trillion? With a whopping $300 billion dollars, we will be well defended from anyone who would want to attack us.

I really don't think you're factoring in the lack of periodic costs that solar panels have.

Well, first off the war in the middle east isn't entirely based on foreign oil. That's a pretty naive thing to say. That said, it's also pretty naive to say it's purely against terrorism. Regardless, the war we're fighting there is also to aid foreign nations so even if we solve our foreign oil dependency the war would not be over.

Second, what I said is true. Have you looked at the efficiency of solar panels lately? 1 square foot of solar panel ~= 10 watts. The average oil turbine runs at 480 megawatts, or 480,000,000 watts. That's 48,000,000 square feet of solar paneling. Also, solar panels only work during the day. :S
I agree with this.

I happen to own a solar panel and from reading the box (too much to set it up, not worth the energy created by it) it doesn't have high energy output.

1) North Korea would never attack us. They have been trying for years and can kind of shoot a rocket. Honestly, it would cost very little money to attack Pyongyang. As for Iran, I'm not saying we kill the military. But do they need near to $1 trillion? With a whopping $300 billion dollars, we will be well defended from anyone who would want to attack us.

It would cost more money to attack North Korea than it would being in Iraq/ Afghanistan, and it's not that hard to obtain missiles these days.  You are also not some military expert and just think that cutting the budget "a little bit" will still give us a proper defense.  I must be missing something but where is this magical $300 billion figure coming from?  Look at how much our servicemen are being paid currently.  Just think about how much they would make if our spending was cut in 3
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I really don't think you're factoring in the lack of periodic costs that solar panels have.
Solar panels have maintenance costs too. But that's beside the point, do you know how large 48 million square feet is? It's implausible.

We can also generate fuel and plastic from corn.

Not to mention we can fund Wind power.