Poll

Best Heavy Tank?

M1 Abrams
7 (46.7%)
Challenger
1 (6.7%)
Leopard 2
3 (20%)
T-64
1 (6.7%)
T-72 WILK
1 (6.7%)
T-72 N1M
0 (0%)
T-80
2 (13.3%)

Total Members Voted: 15

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What is Wargame?
Wargame is a real time tactics/real time strategy game that focuses on unit combat, tactics, and using the terrain to your advantage. The game takes place during the cold war where you either side with the forces of NATO or the forces of the Warsaw PACT. You have a wide variety of Infantry, troop carriers, helicopters, planes, tanks, artillery, fast attack vehicles, and tank destroyers to fight your battles. Unlike other rts where you play as a certain faction or country, Wargame allows you to make your own armies that fit your style. You can play as the United States, or you can play as an army that uses American Infantry, German tanks, French airplanes, and British artillery. You have the freedom to pretty much tailor the army that fits your needs. You also have a wide variety of technology. So you can use old tanks from the 1960s, or new modern tanks from the 1980s or a mix of both. The possibilities to what you can make are endless. Be careful though, you have limited troops and each unit you take comes with a unique price tag. You have also have fuel, ammo, and health to worry about.

The Factions
NATO: This faction is composed of western democracies that fall under the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. NATO armies follow their own guideslines based on their own countries needs instead of following a standardized pattern.
List of countries ingame:
  • United States: This country is one the major super powers in game that can stand on its own. American units are well balanced, but they aren't the masters of everything. Most of their tanks are long ranged and have firing systems, making them expensive. Appears in: EE, ALB, RD
  • France: This country focuses on using light units, hit and run tactics, and ambushes. Appears in: EE, ALB, RD
  • United Kingdom: This country focuses on slow heavy armor and light mobile transports. Appears in: EE, ALB, RD
  • West Germany: This country has their own locally built weapons, vehicles, and heavily armed Infantry. Appears in: EE, ALB, RD
  • Canada: This country relies on Robust infantry, anti-tank equipment, older tanks, fast transports, and defensive tactics. Appears in: ALB, RD
  • Norway: Like the Canadians, Norway uses formidable infantry. Their forces are skilled in close quarters combat and tasked with slowing down offenses so that they can buy time for other NATO forces. Appears in ALB, RD
  • Denmark: This country relies mostly on militia infantry and armored recon vehicles. Appears in ALB, RD
  • Sweden: Technically this a neutral country, but leans more toward NATO. The Swedish army has a scarcity of infantry, gas guzzling tanks, and a strong airforce. Appears in ALB, RD
  • ANZACS: The “Bad Boys of the Empire” no longer need prove their status as elite troops in the field of infantry combat. Specialists in counter-insurgency, they track, locate and destroy enemy infantry in melee combat, or use a plethora of anti-personnel devices from napalm to a range of modified vehicles to lend the infantry more firepower. Alas, their insularity and expertise in jungle warfare has resulted in a marked weakness in anti-tank combat. Appears in RD
  • Japan: The Japanese self-defense force (JSDF) is a self-defense force which is demonstrated by its philosophy, which favors limited and clinical counter-offensives over deep entry. Comprised largely of Japanese hardware, the focus is more on equipping vehicles with extremely high-precision optics rather than heavy armor. In the ‘90s however, Japan brought itself up to date with MBTs (main battle tanks) and IFVs (infantry fighting vehicles) from its Western allies. Appears in RD
  • South Korea: In an official state of war since 1950, South Korea is a nation armed to the teeth. It has a solid infantry force, particularly marines, and relies more on extensive formations than on significant technical advantages to defeat its enemy in the north. South Korea only began developing a high-tech military industry in the mid ‘80s, producing “home-grown” vehicles to rival those of their American allies. Appears in RD

PACT: The is the treaty of friendship of Slavic peoples, was created in response to NATO. All PACT armies rely on standardized equipment, however each country is unique to a degree.

List of countries ingame:
  • Soviet Union: This country can stand on its own, has heavy tank formations with terrible optics, helicopter gunships, and heavy guns. However like the US, Soviet units are expensive. Appears in EE, ALB, RD
  • East Germany: This country fights exclusively with downgraded soviet technology, fierce infantry, and tasked with guarding the Iron Curtain. Their forces have many recon units. Appears in EE, ALB, RD
  • Poland: This country has strong infantry specialists and fast transports. Appears in EE, ALB, RD
  • Czechoslovakia: This country has the most home built weapons, fast infantry transports, and powerful artillery. Appears in EE, ALB, RD
  • China: The Sino-Soviet split forced the Chinese army to develop its own military industry which had previously depended on Soviet hardware. Oscillating between Western technology and local production, by the ‘90s the Chinese army was barely inferior to its Western and Soviet counterparts in many areas. Appears in RD
  • North Korea: The North Korean army still depends on its vast forces, one of the largest in the world, to compensate for the technological gap between its South Korean and American adversaries. However, it played on the rivalry between the Chinese and the Soviets and acquired substantial military resources from both camps to make up for most of its weaknesses. The North Korean army therefore comprises an extraordinary mix of vehicles straight out of WWII and modern prototypes from its communist neighbors. Appears in RD

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« Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 12:08:05 PM by Harm94 »

Everything you see in OP and trailers is just CGI or intensely editted.

This game is basically whoever has more OP tanks wins.

I had a variety of forces and was playing with a friend who had more hours than I did who was playing with mostly infantry units becaus ehe liked them. We were DEMOLISHED by a guy that just had a bunch of advanced tanks, and just moved them all to our spawn point as soon as the game started. The combat is slow, the campaign is boring and the multiplayer isn't fun unless you're playing with a friend whose at the same level you are.

Everything you see in OP and trailers is just CGI or intensely editted.

This game is basically whoever has more OP tanks wins.

I had a variety of forces and was playing with a friend who had more hours than I did who was playing with mostly infantry units becaus ehe liked them. We were DEMOLISHED by a guy that just had a bunch of advanced tanks, and just moved them all to our spawn point as soon as the game started. The combat is slow, the campaign is boring and the multiplayer isn't fun unless you're playing with a friend whose at the same level you are.
Constructive critism great. Will add gameplay videos to the op. Also you sure do have a vendetta against this game.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2013, 02:27:12 AM by Harm94 »

Everything you see in OP and trailers is just CGI or intensely editted.

This game is basically whoever has more OP tanks wins.

I had a variety of forces and was playing with a friend who had more hours than I did who was playing with mostly infantry units becaus ehe liked them. We were DEMOLISHED by a guy that just had a bunch of advanced tanks, and just moved them all to our spawn point as soon as the game started. The combat is slow, the campaign is boring and the multiplayer isn't fun unless you're playing with a friend whose at the same level you are.

The only problem there was the fact that you both just got your ass kicked. It's not the game's fault when you suck horribly at it. I can understand that it's not a strategy game for everyone but you are just insulting it and calling it stuff for incredibly dumb reasons.

First of all :in the current meta game Heavy tanks are extremely underused because of ATGM units. Here's why :

Let's say the enemy used Leopard 2A4s which are probally one of the best NATO tanks you can get. You can only deploy 4 of them and they are the most expensive NATO tank you can get. Their frontal armor is a stunning 10 which is the maximum armor a tank can have but their side armor is only a 5. Like all tanks it has 10 hit points.
Then let's take a look at one of the Pact ATGMs - let's say you had Konkurs ATGM teams correctly placed and you had enough recon to see your enemy. The Teams have a konkurs missile which has 7 accuracy and 12 AP power.
A side hit would do about 7 damage right ? Now that would mean that the Leopard would only have 3 HP left. The hit could have also been a CRITICIAL hit which would deal DOUBLE THE DAMAGE ( 24 AP) and it would essentially instantly kill any tank.
Also you can buy veterancy for your units which increases the accuracy , moral and CRITICAL HIT chance for units. Any ATGM unit with full veterancy could instant-gib any tank but of course veterancy significally increases a unit's price and ATGM units can easily get destroyed by other units.
But that's pretty much why most people don't spam heavy tanks these days.

Oh and infantry is only useful when they are deployed in forests and buildings. On the field they just get shot dead by everything.

This game is NOT "basically whoever has more OP tanks wins" and everyone who plays the game can assure you that.

That reminds me of the first few matches I played - in one of them I was attacked by a NATO player with Leopards and Bradley IFVs near my starting point. But he didn't get far because I had ATGM units placed in a nearby village.
I stopped the enemy's advance and they lost a ton of points trying to attack my deployment zone. In the mean time my ally attacked their starting point and finally finished them off.

Anyways here's some videos of a guy playing in the Wargame cup
Round 1
Round 2

This is probally the most underrated strategy game of the last year.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2013, 01:36:34 PM by Gear »

I love M110s. Even if they don't hit their target, the enemy units will think twice about advancing.


I can only image the damage done with mortars hitting that line.

Fighter Jets

I love fielding Super M60s and MBT-70s, its best that  you have a scout spot for them and tank advantage of their long range or have your cheaper tanks pull agro.

Ffff

I recently uninstalled this because I had noone to play with.

Ffff

I recently uninstalled this because I had noone to play with.
One of the reasons I created this thread was to get games going.

i'd get this if there are a buttload of people playing, it looks fun.

problem though, i'm normally not so hot at RTSes and i personally despise games with "level up" systems where leveling up allows you to unlock better things than what you had before, then allowing higherlevels to be matchmade with lowerlevels.

i'd get this if there are a buttload of people playing, it looks fun.

problem though, i'm normally not so hot at RTSes and i personally despise games with "level up" systems where leveling up allows you to unlock better things than what you had before, then allowing higherlevels to be matchmade with lowerlevels.
You can play the campaign and get points after beating each level to unlock stuff. Some levels unlock units for free.

Anyone wanna play with / against me ? I want to try a full DDR deck for stuffs n giggs.

Anyone wanna play with / against me ? I want to try a full DDR deck for stuffs n giggs.
Atleast DDR is the only other Warsaw Pact country besides Russia that be offensive. Poland and Czech are more defensive and support armies. We'll have to do this sometime.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 12:14:44 PM by Harm94 »

At least DDR is the only other country Warsaw Pact that be offensive. Poland and Czech are more defensive and support armies.
Poland is a joke faction with some pretty useless units. Their infantry is mostly cheap and has crappy AT accuracy , their only logistic vehicle is a URAL truck which is pretty much useless because Russia has the same truck + an upgrade. Their only tank is the T34 and that armed Mi 2 is ridiculously overpriced for it's poor stats.

The CSSR is probally the only faction with a whole bunch of useful not-russian units like all of their infantry , the KOLOS ,the DANA artillery gun and the STROP 2.
They also have this cheap tank destroyer called 0T-810D which fires normal AT shells instead of HEAT rounds - that means the closer it get's to a target the more damage the round will do. I actually managed to destroy a Leopard 2 with a pair of them.

The DDR mostly has cheaper versions of old and also cheap Russian equipment but they also have some interesting infantry ( Motor.Schützen , FJB 40 and the only warsaw pact recon infantry - the Grenzer).
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 04:37:03 PM by Gear »