WinterBite Ch3: Strongholds Bloody Course [RP] [CH3 Started!!!]

[Hammereditor5]

Wait a minute...
My attitude of "benchmarks are solid" may be false!
Cowboy told me today how he was able to host 99 players @ 50k bricks with only 19% CPU usage. My belief that benchmarks are solid proof would make me think that only a Core i7-4930K would suffice.
I also remembered that Kalphiter was able to host 130+ players on a single core of an AMD Opteron 3280 once.
When I heard this from Cowboy I thought, "How is this possible"?
So tomorrow, I and Cowboy6 decided to do some thorough tests with Winter bite and CPU usage. We will connect up to 10 clients to the server on each test, and record the CPU usage.
One test will be performed on CBMhost's server, while another is performed on HammerHost. I also thought of doing an optional test on my old computer's Athlon II x4 635 (which is similar to CBM's CPU).
This will find out once and for all if I misjudged the 10-player limit of HammerHost's CPU on Winter bite. What happened is that I extrapolated the CPU usage from just 4 players.
Now I've realized is that the only way to test if my VPS can hold more than 10 players is to...
actually connect 10 players to it.

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[Kniaz]

Blockland hosting doesn't seriously use up a lot of CPU.
You won't need loving HAL to run Frostbite.

[Rub]

Sorry to burst your bubble but you're never going to get the performance of the hosts single core speed with 1 vCPU as CPU time is scheduled and shared amongst the other VM guests on the machine. I don't think a VPS is ever going to work well for you, you need a reliable and predictable amount of CPU time to ensure you have enough resources for all clients, regardless of what they're hosting, and that isn't achievable when you're sharing a CPU with an unknown amount of people.

Having multiple cores is a great help too, we could have a couple of servers in a crashed state consuming 100% of a core and still have no performance degradation as there was still plenty of CPU time to cope with demand. RTB servers were oversold in terms of CPU, but it was carefully managed and monitored to ensure servers with high resource use were split across different hosts.

I suggest you look around for some deals on dedicated servers, RTB paid no where near list price for any of the old i5 servers with HoneLive (http://www.honelive.com/) or the newer Xeon servers with ServerMania - that allowed us to afford premium server hardware and offer it at an affordable price.

Just for the record we had e3-1270v3 not v2 :)

[Hammereditor5]

Sorry to burst your bubble but you're never going to get the performance of the hosts single core speed with 1 vCPU

No, I have 3 virtual CPU cores, not one.
Well, I just cannot afford a dedicated server right now. It's impossible due to the scale of my hosting service.

I suggest you look around for some deals on dedicated servers

Well, I have 2 good choices, which are from Hosting above:
• $80: Xeon L5410 (quad-core), 16 GB DDR2 RAM, 160 GB HDD
• $100: Dual Xeon L5410, 24 GB DDR2 RAM, 1 TB HDD

To get any of these, I'll need to fill up my current VPS in order to prove that I will get enough clients to pay for most of the cost of a bigger server.

[Rub]

No, I have 3 virtual CPU cores, not one.
Well, I just cannot afford a dedicated server right now. It's impossible due to the scale of my hosting service.Well, I have 2 good choices, which are from Hosting above:
• $80: Xeon L5410 (quad-core), 16 GB DDR2 RAM, 160 GB HDD
• $100: Dual Xeon L5410, 24 GB DDR2 RAM, 1 TB HDD

To get any of these, I'll need to fill up my current VPS in order to prove that I will get enough clients to pay for most of the cost of a bigger server.

stuffty old CPUs, we had e3-1270v3s with 32GB RAM for similar prices.

[Hammereditor5]

stuffty old CPUs, we had e3-1270v3s with 32GB RAM for similar prices.

That would cost me $145, A.K.A too much. I'll buy one of these when my hosting service expands enough.

I know the Xeons here are old, but Hosting above uses old hardware.
But I do believe an L5410 is enough because I used Hosting above's 4 GB VPS plan for 2 months with HamHost.

Anyway, I've been considering getting business internet (lets you host servers) and hosting the servers at home. This could be more cheap in the long term. The 12 hours of power outage time each year does not matter much; I can just add compensation time.

I would have 2 choices for hardware:
• Keep it the same. Use the existing Athlon II x4 in my old computer. Use the 8 GB DDR2 RAM.
• New hardware: Get a new AM3+ motherboard ($80), new AMD FX-6300 CPU ($130), 16 GB of DDR3 RAM ($120), and a CM hyper 212 evo CPU cooler ($40). The total cost is $270. I would also overclock the CPU to 4.2 GHz to add performance.

The only problem is that the 2-year contract from Verizon is still active and getting their business plans may not be possible until the contract expires.

[Rub]

That would cost me $145, A.K.A too much. I'll buy one of these when my hosting service expands enough.

Nobody in the entire world pays list price for servers.

[Hammereditor5]

Nobody in the entire world pays list price for servers.

So you bargained with Mania? What was the final price?

[Hammereditor5]

While I'm waiting until I can test the true CPU usage of Winter bite, I decided to do a file compression test with 7-zip to test raw CPU usage.
I used the "Fast" setting with Bzip2 on one CPU thread, compressing the same data for each machine. The results are:

• Athlon II x4 635 (similar to CBMhost): 246 seconds
• One of the VPS's cores: 250 seconds

As you can see, the single-core CPU power of both hosting services in nearly identical. My server being a VPS makes my CPU a bit slower than normal, so it's 250 s.
So I would expect the same player capacity as CBMhost. Will the capacities be no higher than 10 players? We'll see!

[Alphadin]

While learning a lot of technical server stuff is my absolute favorite thing to do, Hammer is only really trying to cover himself and wasted about three+ pages doing so.

Because I am trying to convince you all that not being able to host this is not something wrong with my hosting service.

You not being able to host something is still your problem. If a car engine fails, people generally tend to get pissed off more at the where the car came from than at the engine engineers.

If we end up settling for a different host, oh well, all you've done was waste 3+ pages on our topic explaining to us clear as day how you can't host us, and all it does is make you look bad if you end up able to.

[miniiron45]

If you can't host us
why are you still here?

I know right?

[jleneau]

The last comment I made about hammer host was a bad vps but I thought about it and his VPS isn't bad. It's ACually a very good vps if u ask me. He's trying to also say that the vps can't handle all that bricks on the machine. But over all the vps seems good to me.

Portal master I'm gonna come right out but if u need this server to be dedicated, then you need CBMHost, there VPS or server has way better speed and less lag and can hold up to atleast 15 players with how many bricks u have.

[Hammereditor5]

The last comment I made about hammer host was a bad vps but I thought about it and his VPS isn't bad. It's ACually a very good vps if u ask me. He's trying to also say that the vps can't handle all that bricks on the machine. But over all the vps seems good to me.

Portal master I'm gonna come right out but if u need this server to be dedicated, then you need CBMHost, there VPS or server has way better speed and less lag and can hold up to atleast 15 players with how many bricks u have.

I'm currently doing some testing with a 255k-brick buff server.
I'm pretty sure it'll be able to hold more than 10 players.

[Swat 3]

I can argue because blah

I am right!

Look at my I can into big words
who am I?

[miniiron45]

So right now I'm wondering is Winterbite getting a hosting service? Cause I'm tried of seeing people going back and forward with this situation. Hammereditor's hosting service won't be able to support Winterbite; So let's end that argument cause it's not doing us any better.