Poll

What is your main sona?

House Cat
71 (7.7%)
Big Cat
25 (2.7%)
General Dog
24 (2.6%)
Wolf
68 (7.3%)
Fox
92 (9.9%)
Snake
5 (0.5%)
Naga
4 (0.4%)
Lizard
8 (0.9%)
Dragon
55 (5.9%)
Horse
5 (0.5%)
Deer
6 (0.6%)
General Bird
17 (1.8%)
Gryphon
11 (1.2%)
Bat
5 (0.5%)
Otter
10 (1.1%)
Rabbit
7 (0.8%)
Frog
3 (0.3%)
Shark
16 (1.7%)
Whale
7 (0.8%)
Raptor
8 (0.9%)
Owl
8 (0.9%)
Goo Creature
22 (2.4%)
Rubber Creature
3 (0.3%)
Latex Creature
31 (3.3%)
Bear
14 (1.5%)
Weasel
3 (0.3%)
Ferret
10 (1.1%)
Sergal
7 (0.8%)
Camel
12 (1.3%)
DeadFur
18 (1.9%)
Human
352 (38%)

Total Members Voted: 923

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fab needs cute femboys for scientifical purposes, someone please help him

does this count?

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does this count?

no :<

Probably auto-directs to the girly tag, but i like using the actual tags
forget the actual tags
i propose that we start using 'cheese-p' as a main tag for 'hand_on_breast'


Documents can say whatever they want, it's up to how its commonly interpreted. The common interpretation is that if you create IP that is written or drawn, it is your IP.
Written and drawn representations of sergals are copyrightable. I've never argued against that.

However anything closely resembling said artwork or fictional species could possibly be considered infringement even though it is a species.
This is the exact problem and reason why it's not copyrightable. A species is far too broad of a thing, that allowing it to be protected would cause copyright claims everywhere.

Imagine if someone copyrighted "dog with wings"
It's such a vague concept that has so many renditions of it, the owner would be making copyright claims everywhere"
"Animal with shark head" isn't a whole lot more original than "dog with wings"

We're talking about whether or not a specific fictional species should be considered protected intellectual property that can be traced back to one point of origin, the author herself. I agree that attempting to copyright the general idea of an animal standing on two legs is too vague, mainly because it's been a thing that's been conceptualized and represented in every art medium for a long forgetin time, and that no one entity is responsible for the idea of anthropomorphic animals.
I don't know man, furries seem pretty fictional to me.
You missed the point that "now put a shark head on it" isn't a whole lot

I looked it up
See, you keep saying things like this, but you never provide a link.

I am offering citation, I'm interpreting the legal documents you provided. That's the whole point.
Stating your interpretation is not a citation. Provide a link to a credible source that says you can copyright a species. Because every result for a Google search of "can I copyright a species" says exactly what I'm saying, including the first one, which has answers from actual attorneys
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Written and drawn representations of sergals are copyrightable. I've never argued against that.

But not the "idea" behind it, that's what you meant, right?


This is the exact problem and reason why it's not copyrightable. A species is far too broad of a thing, that allowing it to be protected would cause copyright claims everywhere.

This has already been posted but a fictional series is not too broad by definition to copyright, and that Sergals are already copyrighted (and the link has been posted recently before). I've said this a handful of times already but I don't see why a fictional species shouldn't protected, there's a set standard behind what a fictional species looks like. Depiction can vary by art style and specific character qualities but you could still differ between species.

Imagine if someone copyrighted "dog with wings"
It's such a vague concept that has so many renditions of it, the owner would be making copyright claims everywhere"
"Animal with shark head" isn't a whole lot more original than "dog with wings"

I'm fairly sure there's more to what a sergal is than just "animal with shark head". Like I said before I'm probably the least qualified to argue about this since I'm no expert on anthropology but the Sergal has enough distinctive and unique qualities to make them stand out from something as vague as a dog with wings.


Stating your interpretation is not a citation. Provide a link to a credible source that says you can copyright a species. Because every result for a Google search of "can I copyright a species" says exactly what I'm saying, including the first one, which has answers from actual attorneys

The general consensus is that in order for a fictional species to qualify as intellectual property there has to be enough writing and content to back that species as an original species.

So yes, Sergals are protected intellectual property regardless if it's a species or not.


But not the "idea" behind it, that's what you meant, right?
Yes

This has already been posted but a fictional series is not too broad by definition to copyright, and that Sergals are already copyrighted (and the link has been posted recently before). I've said this a handful of times already but I don't see why a fictional species shouldn't protected, there's a set standard behind what a fictional species looks like. Depiction can vary by art style and specific character qualities but you could still differ between species.
Again, someone saying they own something, and actually owning it, are not the same thing.
Proof of ownership would be something like
a lawsuit where someone successfully enforced copyright of an entire fictional species

I'm fairly sure there's more to what a sergal is than just "animal with shark head". Like I said before I'm probably the least qualified to argue about this since I'm no expert on anthropology but the Sergal has enough distinctive and unique qualities to make them stand out from something as vague as a dog with wings.
The only difference is that a head is a more recognizable feature that wings. Both cases are putting the part of one animal on another

The general consensus is that in order for a fictional species to qualify as intellectual property there has to be enough writing and content to back that species as an original species.
No, that was the general consensus about characters

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Next, it is possible but rather difficult and actually a bit rare to copyright a character. Simply drawing a picture of a character you have in your mind will generally not cut it. Characters that have been successfully granted copyright protection include recognizable and major ones like Superman. It's decided by the courts on a case-by-case basis and the test involves determining whether the elements of the character are sufficiently original, among other things. Some people have tried to enforce copyright protections of characters but courts determine that their characters were simply not original enough.

Also, focus on how many times people said that enforcing protection on a specific character is rare and hard. If that's hard, imagine how hard protecting the even less specific species would be


Ike, Headcrab let's stop fighting.

Instead help me come up with an idea to make assloads of money from BumBum


Instead help me come up with an idea to make assloads of money from BumBum
prostitution

i wanna bum bumbum's bum.

just copyright bumbum's design and when anyone makes a stick figure horse sue the rooster out of them

prostitution

That's a good suggestion

just copyright bumbum's design and when anyone makes a stick figure horse sue the rooster out of them

That's a brilliant idea