Poll

Abortions?

Yay
141 (66.8%)
Nay
46 (21.8%)
Undecisive
24 (11.4%)

Total Members Voted: 211

Author Topic: Abortions? Yay or Nay?  (Read 10630 times)

Sanctity of human life, it is a life, and it is produced by humans...
It's not a person. Things produced by humans aren't automatically special, and neither are things that may turn into humans.


Since I don't believe in souls or anything like that I don't see why not

Come guys, we all have our own opinions. Who are we to judge? Let's all gather around a campfire or something.

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Come guys, we all have our own opinions. Who are we to judge? Let's all gather around a campfire or something.
opinions aren't a problem if they're at least reasonably justified

Come guys, we all have our own opinions. Who are we to judge? Let's all gather around a campfire or something.
our c-a-m-p-f-i-r-e-s-o-n-g song

Come guys, we all have our own opinions.
the problem is when it goes further than that
people like nitro are what sometimes forces people to have illegal abortions which can sometimes lead to their death

opinions aren't a problem if they're at least reasonably justified
The LORD is my justification!

opinions aren't a problem if they're at least reasonably justified
At the end of the day you aren't going to convince your opposition that you are right and he isn't going to change your views either. You will both go to sleep and wake up only to find yourself fighting over the same things. If you have read enough history books in every conflict each side saw themselves as the justified group who was on a crusade to spread their agenda. If I could have it my way I would create different societies that each could have their own way. 

Again, LIFE STARTS AT CONCEPTION U BRAINLESS CELLS
if life is your concern then ejaculating is always wrong because of the incredible amount of cells that die, even if you're cumming in a woman
and every period a woman has is wrong
and every second of your life is wrong

sentience is what is important. fetuses aren't sentient

Some people who had horrible parents who never cared about them became great people who had great lives. Their childhood may have been stuffty and they may have had horrible parents but they made the most out of their lives and moved past their childhood experiances. If their parents aborted them they wouldnt be able to have the great lives they had and I doubt they would have wanted to be aborted in the first place. I think its up to the women to decide but I think the whole "the parents will give the kid a horrible life and its better to put it out of its misery while its a fetus" argument is invalid because childhood experiances arent what will make up your whole life and determine if your life will be horrible as a whole or not.

Some people who had horrible parents who never cared about them became great people who had great lives. Their childhood may have been stuffty and they may have had horrible parents but they made the most out of their lives and moved past their childhood experiances. If their parents aborted them they wouldnt be able to have the great lives they had and I doubt they would have wanted to be aborted in the first place. I think its up to the women to decide but I think the whole "the parents will give the kid a horrible life and its better to put it out of its misery while its a fetus" argument is invalid because childhood experiances arent what will make up your whole life and determine if your life will be horrible as a whole or not.
Um what. Yes, how you are raised is a huge determining factor in how you will end up. I remember seeing something before that was even able to connect a drop in crime in NYC with the legalisation of abortion. Having parents that dont give a stuff about you/dont want you/can't afford you typically means you end up a dumbass hoodlum. Why do you think everyone you see at the county municipal office getting foodstamps or EBT cards is ghetto? Because they were raised in a loving home and just figured, hey, why not just be a dumbass?

This brings me to my next point - If you're so anti-abortion you had better be pro-welfare. There are too many people I know who hate abortion and oh-em-gee-it's-horrible but yet they nonstop complain about having to pay taxes for other people's welfare. If youre going to force a woman to have a kid she cant afford you'd better be willing to help pay for it.
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Um what. Yes, how you are raised is a huge determining factor in how you will end up. I remember seeing something before that was even able to connect a drop in crime in NYC with the legalisation of abortion. Having parents that dont give a stuff about you/dont want you/can't afford you typically means you end up a dumbass hoodlum. Why do you think everyone you see at the county municipal office getting foodstamps or EBT cards is ghetto? Because they were raised in a loving home and just figured, hey, why not just be a dumbass?

Its harder for someone who had a bad childhood to be successful but they can still be successful if they are determined

Its harder for someone who had a bad childhood to be successful but they can still be successful if they are determined
that's like, 10% of people. you're relying on everyone being like those people.