Nations at War - Closing Time!

[SWAT One]

In your North American claims, yes. 

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[A million souls]

CWNS is an absolute success, with CI Marines/Navy being well trained in their new ships.

(Using a DEDICATED POINT SYSTEM (dictated by CI))
In the Sport Section, Utah went head to head with CI.
In the Joint Naval Exercise, Slevokxia had won by 5 points. (which is barely)
In the Joint Marine Exercise, the "pirates" (CI) on the oil rig held their ground indefinitely, until Utah and Slevokxia called in Helicopters with Paint ball Miniguns.

To finish off, a party has been organized for all nations attending.
It is understandable if you wish to pull back your forces due to increased tensions, (Eranium v Belsnia)
SirLancelot7

[SirLancelot7]

CWNS is an absolute success, with CI Marines/Navy being well trained in their new ships.

In the Sport Section, Utah went head to head with CI.
In the Joint Naval Exercise, Slevokxia barely scrapped above the other nations.
In the Joint Marine Exercise, the "pirates" (CI) on the oil rig held their ground indefinitely, until Utah and Slevokxia called in Helicopters with Paint ball Miniguns.

To finish off, a party has been organized for all nations attending.
It is understandable if you wish to pull back your forces due to increased tensions,
SirLancelot7

What.  Who decided who's military was better? 

And what do you mean increased tensions?  I have no tension.

[blazerblock2]

The coastal city of Bahari nears completion, and people are actively working and educating.  With a functioning port, New Abdullahi is now prepared for intercontinental trade.  It is also bringing in foods from the sea.  Mines as well are bringing in new resources such as iron, coal, etc., and lumber has become a major part of the economy.  Manufacturing begins immediately on building materials as to cease "feeding" off of the Federation's generosity.

[Plethora]

The King of Erinaum cannot attend the meeting due to previous engagements.  However, we send a delegate.  He states that Erinaum is not willing to send aid, even supply aid to either side, unless relocation becomes the decision.  Erinaum will sponsor a relocation movement, and if moving to the Americas, Erinaum would be happy to hold down some land while Abdulli moves in.

Erinamese politicians are beginning to disagree with TB's dealings with Abdullahi.  A recent poll in Erinaum's government reveals that 63% of legislators label the TB's actions as unfair.

Nizjin Duale, whip for the Erinamese Liberal Party said in a statement last week,  "The TB's actions with Abdullahi have been nothing but leaning against Abdullahi and setting up barriers in an aggressive and unfair manner, one that no one expected when the TB government had said that that they would be willing and happy to deal with Abdullahi diplomatically."

Government-issued polls sent out to the public reveal that 48% of the public did not approve of TB's actions, 22% accepted TB's actions, 22% of the public did not hear of the event and were shocked at TB's actions.  8% were unaware and didn't care about the situation.

Had I not, I would have taken a hostile side in this conflict, but I didn't.

As for Erinaum's civilians, they wanted Abdullahi free, but respected AC and Belsnia's stances of whether or not to give the land away.  Did they agree with the terrorist attacks done by the radicals in Abdullahi?  No.  Did the government?  No.

There seems to be a jump discontinuity between Swat's actions and what Swat is saying, at least from where I stand.  What it sounds like he's saying is that his people were going to be hands off about the situation even if they didn't like it.  But what happened in reality is that he complained a lot and then jumped in where he said he wouldn't and where he made himself unwelcome, played vigilante, and now wants a pat on the back.

Both the government and the people of the AC do resent this.

I understand where you're coming from Swat, I really do.  But you've proven too rigid in your own defense, too much trouble, and too infatuated with your own idealism.  Why can't you just take Miko's actions and harsh words?  Why can't you just let it roll over you?

If Belsnia wishes, the AC will aid in keeping the riots under control.

[morningstar]

We have our own neutral zone thanks.

I just suggested it because it's obvious that you guys don't trust each other at all.  It's also a good segway into this idea I had that will likely be in my next post. 

[SWAT One]

There seems to be a jump discontinuity between Swat's actions and what Swat is saying, at least from where I stand.  What it sounds like he's saying is that his people were going to be hands off about the situation even if they didn't like it.  But what happened in reality is that he complained a lot and then jumped in where he said he wouldn't and where he made himself unwelcome, played vigilante, and now wants a pat on the back.

Both the government and the people of the AC do resent this.

I understand where you're coming from Swat, I really do.  But you've proven too rigid in your own defense, too much trouble, and too infatuated with your own idealism.  Why can't you just take Miko's actions and harsh words?  Why can't you just let it roll over you?

If Belsnia wishes, the AC will aid in keeping the riots under control.

I can handle words, but I refuse to handle allies pointing guns at my land.  Actions speak louder.  I asked for them to be removed not for Abdullahi's purpose, but for the fact that they shouldn't be pointed at me.  I wanted Miko to remove what I see as a movement of betrayal towards Erinaum and socially unacceptable as a person.  I asked for him to remove them again and again.  Even if they are precautionary, there are tens of thousands of Erinamese Citizens within Abdullahi's, working with them to grow into a properly a functioning nation.  I honestly am not asking for a "pat on the back".  I want any encampments against Abdullahi's gone- An apology is worthless with or without action.

Miko, I just want things to be non-hostile, and for Abdullahi's to be a sovereign nation.  If you think that Erinaum is gonna be a shell that Abdullahi's can retreat into and attack other people, you are mistaken.  I intend to prosecute any terrorist act to the full extent of Erinamese Law (you should know by now how strict that is.) as long as Abdullahi's remains in the Erinamese Sphere.

[Plethora]

So if I payoff Abdullahi's debt, you'll leave and you won't have a hissy fit because Miko is pointing guns at the terrorists?

[SWAT One]

That's another thing.  Pointing HE artillery at civilians when terrorists are only a tiny fraction of the population.  Collateral damage is the wrong approach in the first place.  And Erinamese officials are present for the construction.

Sadly, no.  If Abdullahi's authorizes you to covertly wipe out terrorists within the system, then I will let you do just that.

[blazerblock2]

I remind you all that the "terrorist organization" you speak of is the AIP, the party leading the country at the moment.

So if I payoff Abdullahi's debt, you'll leave and you won't have a hissy fit because Miko is pointing guns at the terrorists?

Hey you can if you want to nothing is stopping you.

[Plethora]

You just won't be pleased unless you get your way, will you?  Like a toddler.

I remind you all that the "terrorist organization" you speak of is the AIP, the party leading the country at the moment.

Excellent point, those terrorists control the nation that you are protecting and supporting.

In the coffee shops of Bath'al many AC intellectuals condemn the "get our hands in everything" mentality of Erinaum.  As one man put it, "Erinaum feels that it must stick its hands into every vile pit it comes across, hoping to find treasure in them.  Sometimes it does.  But eventually of course, Erinaum will find snakes and scorpions in one of these pits, and it will be stung and die in pain with poison running through its veins."  Travel to Erinaum suddenly becomes taboo among the people, and many abroad in Erinaum return to the AC.

[Plethora]

Also, to keep things from getting way out of hand with technology and stuff, I'd like to freeze the year at 2015 if that's alright with over half of you.  Time will still pass, but technology won't.  So unless it's viable that we'll have death stars and the USS Enterprise and stealth technology and railguns and the cures for malaria and cancer and whatever in at least prototype phase in a couple of years, it can't be done.  Sound fair to everyone?

Here's my reasoning:  We can't reliably predict how long it will take for technology to evolve, so it's easier and a crap ton less "Powergame, too futuristic you butthead." for me to put up with.  Sound better now?

[SWAT One]

You are missing my intentions entirely.  Will I accept Abdullahi's attacking my allies after the loan is over?  Definitely not.

I don't see what personal treasure you're talking about, honestly...

Edit:  Erinaum began putting research money in railguns long ago, and there are a few ships with railguns on them.  They are, however, far from widespread.

[blazerblock2]

I feel like that's a bit unfair for me considering I'm a bit behind as a developing nation. (@time freezing)

And I also would like to remind you that AIP were the ones who had originally proposed diplomacy after stealing them firearms.

[Plethora]

I feel like that's a bit unfair for me considering I'm a bit behind as a developing nation. (@time freezing)

Doesn't mean you'll be at a disadvantage, just that technology in general can't surpass that of the year 2015.

Also Swat, show me where you posted funding toward railguns, if you would.  Unless they're not yet feasibly in the prototype phase by 2015, I'd like them to go if most agree with my idea.

Also I think the treasure you're seeking is the fulfillment of your ideals.  Some weird sort of charity maybe.