Poll

Is iMac good, in your opinion?

Yes.
6 (10.7%)
No.
37 (66.1%)
It's okay.
13 (23.2%)

Total Members Voted: 56

Author Topic: Is iMac a good choice?  (Read 1863 times)

what the forget

My old school did this too. Horse stuff, Macs are frustrating to use.

Never said the numbers lie; I just mean that you shouldn't believe unfounded claims without experience/knowledge on the subject. Sure, if the company makes a claim, by all means believe it (until proven otherwise); but if someone denounces that claim without proper evidence or reasoning, especially if I have real-world experience backing me up, I have no reason to believe the claim to be true. That's all I meant when I said that. Sorry if that confused anybody...
Except Seventh said his mom had a monitor with similar pixel densities. How is that an unfounded claim.

If I were OP I would just get a macbook or something off of Ebay or one of those refurbishibg store resell whatever they are called places.

Never said the numbers lie; I just mean that you shouldn't believe unfounded claims without experience/knowledge on the subject. Sure, if the company makes a claim, by all means believe it (until proven otherwise); but if someone denounces that claim without proper evidence or reasoning, especially if I have real-world experience backing me up, I have no reason to believe the claim to be true. That's all I meant when I said that. Sorry if that confused anybody...
He wasn't basing his opinion on what other people said, he was basing his opinion on actual loving facts and figures.  And besides, you can get better visuals on a windows PC with a decent gpu and HDMI.

Edit :somehow duped post.

My mom owns an iMac and it's at least twice as large as the monitor I'm on right now, but only 2.5x as many pixels. I'd say that's a marginal improvement at best.
No, but whoever decides to spend limited school budget resources on overpriced technology is.

Some do and don't have retina. You probably don't have it. There is a very clear and obvious difference. Go to a Mac store.

If you're getting an apple product, get a laptop. If you don't like OSX, dual boot Windows.

If I were OP I would just get a macbook or something off of Ebay or one of those refurbishibg store resell whatever they are called places.
He wasn't basing his opinion on what other people said, he was basing his opinion on actual loving facts and figures.  And besides, you can get better visuals on a windows PC with a decent gpu and HDMI.
Sure, never said that other monitors couldn't be just as good, if not better; that's just addon hardware. All I was saying was that he shouldn't make claims about the MAC's screen unless he's used it firsthand. He never specified that he was talking about comparing a Mac's screen to his moms, and so I have no reason to believe he has a Mac. Therefore, he shouldn't claim the difference between a Mac's regular display and a Mac's retina display aren't any different unless he has compared then firsthand or knows of multiple people making this claim from firsthand, unbiased experience. I didn't mean to file anyone up, just get this point across. Shadowsfear summed it up nicely:
Some do and don't have retina. You probably don't have it. There is a very clear and obvious difference. Go to a Mac store.
That's really all I was trying to say; sometimes I just have a hard time putting things down in a concise manner. If you still disagree, be that way; but I'm not going to bother continuing this argument about pixel density over the Internet, because when it comes down to it, the OP will decide what he wants to do, and really, none of us can tell him otherwise.

Sure, never said that other monitors couldn't be just as good, if not better; that's just addon hardware. All I was saying was that he shouldn't make claims about the MAC's screen unless he's used it firsthand. He never specified that he was talking about comparing a Mac's screen to his moms, and so I have no reason to believe he has a Mac. Therefore, he shouldn't claim the difference between a Mac's regular display and a Mac's retina display aren't any different unless he has compared then firsthand or knows of multiple people making this claim from firsthand, unbiased experience. I didn't mean to file anyone up, just get this point across. Shadowsfear summed it up nicely:That's really all I was trying to say; sometimes I just have a hard time putting things down in a concise manner. If you still disagree, be that way; but I'm not going to bother continuing this argument about pixel density over the Internet, because when it comes down to it, the OP will decide what he wants to do, and really, none of us can tell him otherwise.
I understand what you are saying but all I am trying to say is that the pixel density and resolution decide the sharpness of the display, and buying a cheap PC and upgrading it is usually cheaper than buying a new mac.  Although personal experience is useful and I am not denouncing what you have experienced, all I am saying is the facts and statistics are more reliable for decision making that one person's experience.

atleast you get an actual computer
not a glorified web browser (chromebooks) like our school wants us to buy

If you have lots of money, then you could get an iMac with the warranty on it. That way, if you threw it out the window, Apple would have to give you another one.

Actually, they're so-called "retina displays" are actually visibly noticeable from the othe displays they offer (and quite frankly, better than many computers I've seen to day that are Windows).
You're aware that monitors aren't computers, right? Plus, I can prove that building a computer with the same hardware as an Apple computer is much cheaper. This is a demonstrable fact.

Hehe... I know they're overpriced. That's why I said buy used or refurbished. But his question was, "Is it a good computer?", not, "Is it overpriced?" I wasn't talking about the price when I said that.
I like how when someone asks whether a computer is 'good', your first instinct is to grade it based on the monitor. If you actually looked at the hardware provided by Apple, you'd realize that the markup on parts like RAM is just insane. Even the cheaper hardware is still extraordinarily expensive, largely because of the iLife software suite that is provided with every Apple computer. The issue here is that you're forced to pay out of pocket for software that should be separate.

Sure, if the company makes a claim, by all means believe it (until proven otherwise);
This better be thinly veiled sarcasm because I think you have this ass backwards.

Some do and don't have retina. You probably don't have it. There is a very clear and obvious difference. Go to a Mac store.
I just said I checked the screen resolution of my mom's iMac and compared it to other retina displays on wikipedia. What other key aspects of 'retina displays' am I missing here?

You're aware that monitors aren't computers, right? Plus, I can prove that building a computer with the same hardware as an Apple computer is much cheaper. This is a demonstrable fact.
I like how when someone asks whether a computer is 'good', your first instinct is to grade it based on the monitor. If you actually looked at the hardware provided by Apple, you'd realize that the markup on parts like RAM is just insane. Even the cheaper hardware is still extraordinarily expensive, largely because of the iLife software suite that is provided with every Apple computer. The issue here is that you're forced to pay out of pocket for software that should be separate.
This better be thinly veiled sarcasm because I think you have this ass backwards.
I just said I checked the screen resolution of my mom's iMac and compared it to other retina displays on wikipedia. What other key aspects of 'retina displays' am I missing here?
Seventh, I know I said I was done with this argument, but... I think you're just not getting my point here.

First of all, duh, I know a monitor is not a computer. But most Apple computers, particularly the iMac in this context, come with it built in, which is why I explicitly stated monitors used with Windows; just so that people didn't think I was talking about Macs. Also, it's possible to build a Windows computer of the same specs and hardware for a lower price than one you can buy prebuilt. Anyway, for the last time; I get that they're expensive, but every Apple product I've bought so far for myself has been at a really reduced price, or no expense to me at all. And once more, price is not the object of this topic.

Secondly, um, who said my first instinct was to grade a computer based on the monitor. Personally, I could care less about the monitor, provided it gets the job done. I only said this because that was the topic at hand. If we're talking about monitors, of course I'm going to judge the product's monitor! Just so you know, the first thing I judge a computer's fit for someone is based on what they're using it for, and their requirements.

Ok, so how does hardware cost increase because of software? If the software is included and you get to keep it, doesn't that mean that you just paid extra for the software? That's really just twisting perspective. The thing is, many people use iLife software. In fact (not that this is a good thing), I wouldn't be surprised if some people bought a Mac just for the iLife software. Also, some Windows RAM modules work for Macs, reducing its cost. And for the last time; I AGREE WITH EVERYONE WHO SAYS APPLE IS OVERPRICED. I mean, seriously, how many times do I have to say that I'm agreeing with you on something before you stop attacking me about it?

Yes, I do mean what I said about claims, to an extent. If the company checks out ok, and advertises specs and features of a product, you really should have no reason to disbelieve the company's claim until shown otherwise; whether this be personal experience, bad online reviews, or a friend or two tells you it's a bad products. Your progress and learning ability in life is stunted if you go about believing the worst about people/companies/things from the start. Basically, "innocent until proven guilty".

Anyway, about your mom's iMac; are you saying it has or doesn't have a retina display? And what displays are you comparing it to on Wikipedia? Other Apple ones, or third party monitors?

Ok, so how does hardware cost increase because of software? If the software is included and you get to keep it, doesn't that mean that you just paid extra for the software?
The funny thing is that I can't even explain that because it's Apple's dumb idea.

If you're getting an apple product, get a laptop. If you don't like OSX, dual boot Windows.
This! The new Macbook Pro Laptops have a nice shape and they are pretty much as powerful, if not more, than my Mac Mini.

Hey, guys.

I made a similar topic like this before about MacBook Pro with retina display. I am pretty sure you will remember it.

I have came to a conclusion that I need a desktop that is not a Windows PC. So, I decided on iMac. Yes, call me an Apple cigarette or whatever, but my school requires their students to buy Macs only.

So, all I want is just some feedback and opinions on it.

Thanks.
What bastard of a school would force you to use a Mac? Install Linux on the Mac just to say "forget you" to the school.