What's high-school like?

[DiceyGrammar]

when you meet your wife someday and she's wondering if she's the first one to have love with you or some stuff like that.

do you seriously think that by the time you meet your future wife she would
a) be a virgin (bar the fat & uglies)
or
b) give a stuff that you're not?

that's hilarious

My point is you may as well get some bedroom experience while the going is good. Being a virgin by the time you're married isn't some fantastic thing, especially as a male. All it means is that you have no idea what you're doing and the first year of love will be terrible. I'm sure the VAST majority of women want an experienced lover rather than some introverted virgin.

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[Moonstar Akemi]

do you seriously think that by the time you meet your future wife she would
a) be a virgin (bar the fat & uglies)
or
b) give a stuff that you're not?

that's hilarious

My point is you may as well get some bedroom experience while the going is good. Being a virgin by the time you're married isn't some fantastic thing, especially as a male. All it means is that you have no idea what you're doing and the first year of love will be terrible. I'm sure the VAST majority of women want an experienced lover rather than some introverted virgin.

But she is a virgin, and so am I. Hell, I gave her her first kiss. And no, don't pull the "ugly and fat" excuse because there's no such thing. If you honestly believe you can love someone's body and say you love them, that just makes you a liar. I chose not to forget around and go against my morals. What's so wrong about that? Man, you really have a negative view on everything, don't you? I'm not sure what kind of negative experiences you've had with women, but I'm going to tell you the same advice I tell a lot of people:

Once you meet the person who makes you regret everything you've ever done, you'll know you've met your wife. lol

Cliche, I know, but it's true. At least in my case, it's true. You think I'd hand out advice like this without any experience? Don't do things you'll regret or you'll be miserable for the rest of your life.

It's hilarious how you think that real women want to get with men who have tons of experience with other women and not get to experience anything for the first time with them without knowing that they've already done everything. Another woman's had their hands on them already and they aren't truly theirs alone, if you understand what I'm saying. It's painful. That's why I feel bad for most older single people because they've already gone through a lot before meeting somebody they can finally care about. Regardless, your argument is ridiculous, I'm sorry.

"first year of love will be terrible!" Does it really matter? That's part of learning. Everyone sucked at love at one point. There's nothing more important than two couples learning together. Nothing.

Also, I never said you had to wait until you were married to have love. I just said you should wait for the person who deserves it most who will most likely end up as your wife one day.

Anyway, rant over.

[DiceyGrammar]

And no, don't pull the "ugly and fat" excuse because there's no such thing. If you honestly believe you can love someone's body and say you love them, that just makes you a liar.

..what? that doesn't make me a liar, it makes me a person. if i wasn't attracted to my girlfriend, i wouldn't be dating her. it was the initial attraction that made me pursue her, and love that keeps me in the relationship. if i didn't love her body, there would be serious problems. love isn't magic lol.

as for the rest of what you've said, i can't really help but giggle because you're 16 and haven't passed the year mark on your relationship. i'd hold back on giving advice for a few years yet lol.

i haven't had a single bad experience with a woman, i'm just not naive. i know that things change, and even with my current gf i'm not that naive to think that this is the be all and end all of relationships. i could marry her, because right now i've not no reason not to. that's not to say that something drastic couldn't change. accepting that is part of being an adult.

and "real women" will care. important to note her that your girlfriend is a girl, not a woman (unless i've missed something here). i know plenty of blokes in the adult dating scene with serious problems because they both lack the game and experience with the ladies (saving yourself for someone is bad)

[Moonstar Akemi]

..what? that doesn't make me a liar, it makes me a person. if i wasn't attracted to my girlfriend, i wouldn't be dating her. it was the initial attraction that made me pursue her, and love that keeps me in the relationship. if i didn't love her body, there would be serious problems. love isn't magic lol.

So you're saying you'd be okay if you had a wife that left you one day when you grow old and your body starts to deteriorate? That's not love. In fact, that's disgusting.

as for the rest of what you've said, i can't really help but giggle because you're 16 and haven't passed the year mark on your relationship. i'd hold back on giving advice for a few years yet lol.

Nah man, I've had one that lasted for two years previously when I was far younger but I don't count it because after meeting my current girlfriend I realized that I never truly felt for somebody before. I've never been so sure in my life about somebody than I am now. She lives a couple hours above me but I've worked my ass off for months now to make money and buy a car. I've seen her a few times by driving up there but I can't do it often because I've only got a permit and can't drive without my father yet. I'm supposed to be getting my license the day after tomorrow.

i haven't had a single bad experience with a woman, i'm just not naive. i know that things change, and even with my current gf i'm not that naive to think that this is the be all and end all of relationships. i could marry her, because right now i've not no reason not to. that's not to say that something drastic couldn't change. accepting that is part of being an adult.

and "real women" will care. important to note her that your girlfriend is a girl, not a woman (unless i've missed something here). i know plenty of blokes in the adult dating scene with serious problems because they both lack the game and experience with the ladies (saving yourself for someone is bad)

My girlfriend and I both are happy that neither of us are 'experienced' because we never felt the desires to go after anyone else. My previous 'relationships' were jokes because I was young and thought the way that you did now, minus the part about appearance. I simply thought love couldn't work. Also, like I said earlier, think about this carefully: Does your girlfriend really love you? If your initial attractions were your bodies, then what's going to happen if one of you gains about 30 pounds or gets messed up in a car accident or something like that? Are you still going to 'love' each other? For all you know, you could get abandoned because you weren't 'attractive' enough to keep her attention. Seriously, people who say they love others but only want their body are just a joke. I know I'm a minority when it comes to my beliefs, but I'm proud of them.

My girlfriend would love me even if I was 500lbs and had missing limbs. That's what makes me happy because I feel the exact same about her. Until you can find love like that, I honestly don't see why you're wasting your time with dating unless you're the kind of person who's openly admitting they don't give a forget about love and would rather just have love; then I can't argue with that.

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[DiceyGrammar]

i said it was initial attraction that got me in the relationship. not that either one of us will leave eachother when we get old lol. however, we've both accepted that if either of us get extremely fat and don't do anything to remedy it, its over. that might seem weird to you, but you're a virgin and still have no idea how much love plays in a relationship - try getting it up over a fat ugly chick, ha.

and yep, that relationship definitely doesnt count lol. you would have been what, 13, 14?

as for being experienced, you're really not the target market for my post. you're probably one of those creeps who will get engaged at 18 and then ACTUALLY become an adult and realize it was all bullstuff lol. the target market are the people who save themselves for that special girl in school, never get said special girl, and then remain virgins until they're in the mid 20's.

as for my love and my girlfriend, being attracted to her body doesn't make me a monster. you literally have no idea at all how much intimacy affects relationships. you are absolutely naive if you think that being attracted to each other's bodies isn't important.

there's no point in me trying to convince you because even now you're trying to give me relationship advice when you've got no idea what an adult relationship is actually like lol.

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[Moonstar Akemi]

i said it was initial attraction that got me in the relationship. not that either one of us will leave eachother when we get old lol. however, we've both accepted that if either of us get extremely fat and don't do anything to remedy it, its over. that might seem weird to you, but you're a virgin and still have no idea how much love plays in a relationship - try getting it up over a fat chick ugly, ha.

I don't have to be a virgin to understand what you're talking about. It's just not part of my morals to act that way.

and yep, that relationship definitely doesnt count lol. you would have been what, 13, 14?

Actually it started when I was twelve, it was online and I finally met her for the first time in Washington D.C. in 2010 when I was fourteen. She ended up leaving me because back then, things weren't going to work out in the end because she was too obsessed with 'attractive' super stars and didn't care much about me. We're friends now and she openly admitted to me that she really doesn't want an actual relationship and that she's the kind of girl who just wants to mess around. Understandable, I didn't hold it against her, but she helped me realize why I never loved her in the first place.

as for being experienced, you're really not the target market for my post. you're probably one of those creeps who will get engaged at 18 and then ACTUALLY become an adult and realize it was all bullstuff lol. the target market are the people who save themselves for that special girl in school, never get said special girl, and then remain virgins until they're in the mid 20's.

I do plan to get engaged once she becomes eighteen. I'll be around 20 at the time we do. We plan to live together and work our way into our musical career together because we're both musical artists. But she's far better than I am so I might just help her out instead while I work on my programming career.

I don't plan to wait until marriage to lose my virginity to her if that's what you're assuming, though. I'm also not Christian, if you're assuming that as well. I just believe it's morally correct. Sure, a lot of the time it doesn't work out for some people and I will admit that I was very lucky in finding this person this early in my life, but I can assure you that it's going to last.

as for my love and my girlfriend, being attracted to her body doesn't make me a monster. you literally have no idea at all how much intimacy affects relationships. you are absolutely naive if you think that being attracted to each other's bodies isn't important.

I never said it made you a monster, I just don't believe your relationship is going to last like mine will. The relationship doesn't have to be based on appearance like you believe. In fact, it's much better if you don't base it on appearance at all. Wouldn't you rather be comfortable with yourself than live some sort of fake relationship that you know could end if either one of you start to lose physical traits? Come on, man, you're pulling my leg, aren't you?

there's no point in me trying to convince you because even now you're trying to give me relationship advice when you've got no idea what an adult relationship is actually like lol.

Likewise, I couldn't convince you because you're trying to convince me that I don't know anything about love when I'm in far better of a relationship than you because unlike you, I don't need to worry about how I look or how she looks. Our personalities are all that matters. I know I sound like a cigarette to you, but it's your opinion (and many others' as well) and our morals are totally opposite of each other's. If your relationship works for you, then I'm glad you're happy with it — just hope that it lasts.

One more thing, what are you calling an "adult relationship"? Do you reach some sort of point in age to where relationships become completely different than they are now? I'm not just talking about the freedom of being able to drive and see somebody and take them out on dates or back to your place without parents to butt in. As of my age, I believe I hold more than enough knowledge to talk about what I do. Even if I were fourteen, the same would still apply if I had grown up at that time. It doesn't really matter if you're an adult or not. It depends on how mature you are as a person. I believe you're a little too confident in what you're assuming about me.

Once again, responses in bold. I should probably stop doing this.

[Raven¢roft]

What the hell

[Otis Da HousKat]

She was hot, but I don't want none of that.

So you're gay then?

[Moonstar Akemi]

What the hell

I suppose the topic has been a little derailed because of my discussion with Boltster, huh? Sorry. ;-;

[DiceyGrammar]

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I do plan to get engaged once she becomes eighteen. I'll be around 20 at the time we do

So you're 16 now and she's 14? Are you seriously trying to lecture me on relationships? anyway i definitely picked you as being that sort of creep lol.

I just don't believe your relationship is going to last like mine will

when I'm in far better of a relationship than you because unlike you, I don't need to worry about how I look or how she looks.

because, unlike me, you're not in an intimate relationship

One more thing, what are you calling an "adult relationship"?

a relationship that includes intimacy. that is my entire point. a non intimate relationship isn't an adult relationship (with the other half being that you're actually an adult). we're in two different types of relationships. i've been in both, you've been in one. who's the one making generalisations between the two? (you)

anyway it's cute meeting someone who still thinks love is some magical thing and looks don't matter. good luck, life will hit you hard lol.

[warble]

i go there everyday and cant wait for fifth hour because i'm in marching band the rest of the day is ok though, outside of acedemics, I've had my Gameboy and water bottle stolen, if i ever see someone playing a blue SP i'm going to rip it right out of there hands I also feel like i'm surrounded by the dumbest people on the planet so thats a negative anyway, if you get straight A's and have a 30 year old Toyota like me,you'll be ridiculed, and the potheads with 200$ phones and Camaros get 20 friends, horrid grades and no future, GOOD LUCK

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My favourites:So you're 16 now and she's 14? Are you seriously trying to lecture me on relationships? anyway i definitely picked you as being that sort of creep lol.
because, unlike me, you're not in an intimate relationship
a relationship that includes intimacy. that is my entire point. a non intimate relationship isn't an adult relationship (with the other half being that you're actually an adult). we're in two different types of relationships. i've been in both, you've been in one. who's the one making generalisations between the two? (you)

anyway it's cute meeting someone who still thinks love is some magical thing and looks don't matter. good luck, life will hit you hard lol.

dont ridicule him on ages my parents met after college, my dad is 55 and mom is 48 age doesn't matter unless of course it's like 40 to 4 or 70 to 20 or something

[Moonstar Akemi]

My favourites:So you're 16 now and she's 14? Are you seriously trying to lecture me on relationships? anyway i definitely picked you as being that sort of creep lol.
because, unlike me, you're not in an intimate relationship
a relationship that includes intimacy. that is my entire point. a non intimate relationship isn't an adult relationship (with the other half being that you're actually an adult). we're in two different types of relationships. i've been in both, you've been in one. who's the one making generalisations between the two? (you)

anyway it's cute meeting someone who still thinks love is some magical thing and looks don't matter. good luck, life will hit you hard lol.

Actually, she's 15 and a Sophomore in high school. So not really that young, no. Also, my dad was a teenager before my mom was even born. My dad's in his 60's and my mother is still in her 40's.

But hey, good job for picking me as that sort of "creep". I don't see what's wrong with that, but okay. But honestly, my brother's an adult and all he's doing is going on dates and getting tits. That's not much of a relationship to me. In fact, I have many adult friends who have a harder time than I do getting their stuff together. But hey, thanks. Life has already hit me once and I won't let it again. c:

However, I will never be in a relationship that is nothing but 100% personality. But then again, I'll never be in another relationship because I'm enjoying my first true and my last true relationship altogether. :)

Edit: I still want to know what made you think the way you do. Love isn't "magical". There's just a right way to do it. And you have to be a certain kind of person to really care. If you're not, then that's cool too.

[Otis Da HousKat]

30 year old Toyota

I'm surprised that thing is still standing. Japanese cars from that period were notorious rust buckets.

Maybe it's the environment I grew up in but I like stuffty old cars like that.

[Madmitten]

I'm surprised that thing is still standing. Japanese cars from that period were notorious rust buckets.

my toyota just turned legal last year