The Thaw of Christianity - OH MY GOD NO NO NO PLEASE NO

[Harm94]

Zalot some people need religion because it gives them structure and guidance in their life. Sure there are many that view their religion as the most an important and as the law of the land. All groups have their good and bad people. Same thing with atheists, they don't believe deities because they don't believe in them. Then you have those that see religion as primitive concept and think that religion should be wiped off the earth.

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[Window-Licker]

Zalot is correct. If you're going to try to evangelize, you need to learn to do it without being annoying.

To everyone acting like religion is a good thing: -snip-
Honestly I tihnk it causes much more suffering and fear then anything else.

There's a lot of gore in this, I would consider removing it.

[Doughboy]

I am a Jedi

[Decepticon]

There's a lot of gore in this, I would consider removing it.

what is it of?

[Zloff]

so you're hating on christians forcing their beliefs, right?

he's hating on them for being 'overly religious'

[SWAT One]

To everyone acting like religion is a good thing: http://imgur.com/a/FbIbq
Honestly I tihnk it causes much more suffering and fear then anything else.

Oi, that's a bad assumption mate.  That's not because they are following their religion most of the time (unless it teaches them to be violent), most of the time, that is from people who develop their own sense of right, and exploit the religious mandate to back themselves up.  If you want to use that example, hate on the people who do those things, not on the religion and all of it's followers as a whole.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Most religions don't condone genocide directly in their texts, but do mandate charity and generosity. It's tyranny using religion as a guise by dictators to seem justified in their goals (along with other subtle force tactics for those who aren't scare). The only leader that comes to mind that probably was actually killing because he thought a deity mandated  is Philip II, but there will always be crazy people who occasionally rise to power, religious or not.

Whether or not leaders thought their deity was directly mandating them to commit violent acts doesn't alter the number of violent acts that were committed in the name of religion.

christianity teaches good morals

>Implying christianity is required for these morals

not...having love until marriage

This probably existed mostly to prevent conception of children until after couples were married, to ensure that both parents were there to provide for the child.
But with knowledge of proper contraception, it's not mattering anymore to an increasing amount of people.
Not to mention marriage isn't permanent anymore and can be easily broken off, leaving that concern meaningless

[SWAT One]

Whether or not leaders thought their deity was directly mandating them to commit violent acts doesn't alter the number of violent acts that were committed in the name of religion.
Correction: "that THEY committed in the name of their religion."  Don't accuse one self-righteous individual who isn't actually thinking in terms of their religion's actual teachings for the entire religion and all it's followers.

>Implying christianity is required for these morals
No, you're right.  They are not, but your mentioning this has nothing to do with his statement in context.

This probably existed mostly to prevent conception of children until after couples were married, to ensure that both parents were there to provide for the child.
But with knowledge of proper contraception, it's not mattering anymore to an increasing amount of people.
Not to mention marriage isn't permanent anymore and can be easily broken off, leaving that concern meaningless
It's more of a value thing.  If you value your partner, then you would marry them and stay with them.  To say marriage is meaningless as a whole is to dismiss many good, functional, long-lasting marriages.

And again, I can't defend religions that teach violence as a proper method of "proving themself" or some kind of faith display.

[Window-Licker]

what is it of?

After reviewing it again:
Rooms covered in blood, dead bodies (which are also covered in blood), a guy that looks like he nearly burned to death, severely injured people, a decapitated head, a baby that looks like its head was put into a meat grinder, and a few children with pretty big holes in their heads which I assume are from bullets.

Other than that, there's a few pictures (w/o gore) of people obviously mutilating a female's "areas", but not much else.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Correction: "that THEY committed in the name of their religion."

I don't see how the wording changes the meaning of what I said

Don't accuse one self-righteous individual who isn't actually thinking in terms of their religion's actual teachings for the entire religion and all it's followers.

Many religions do promote violent acts

If you value your partner, then you would marry them and stay with them.  To say marriage is meaningless as a whole is to dismiss many good, functional, long-lasting marriages.

I agree with the first sentence, and I never dismissed marriage.
I'm not sure what you're trying to ague

[SlayerZ99]

I don't see how the wording changes the meaning of what I said
Many religions do promote violent acts
I agree with the first sentence, and I never dismissed marriage.
I'm not sure what you're trying to ague

please be kidding

[Zalot]

I don't want to start any big religion arguments. I've probably worded literally everything I've said in this thread in the most offensive way to theists and I'd like to apologize for that.

Anyway I'll lock the thread now to end the arguments, the actual thread has probably outlived itself and it's just a big flamewar now.
I think most things in the bible/torah/whatever should be taken more metaphorically than literally.