Poll

Do you think Personal Add-ons are OKAY?

Yes, Personal add-ons increase server appeal
81 (59.1%)
No, everything should be open-source
42 (30.7%)
(bonus) Private add-ons are also okay to me.
14 (10.2%)

Total Members Voted: 137

Author Topic: General Opinions on Personal add-ons?  (Read 10936 times)

I'd also like to add that there is no practical way for a human to find data in the cache that they want. The names of files you do not have in your blockland directory are not added to the database. If you tried to export every bit of data in the cache, the file names would look like this: "907d14fb3af2b0d4f18c2d46abe8a edce17367bd" and there would be no file extension, so you'd have to also parse each file to determine the file-type and sort them by extension, and even then, you'd still have no file name.
While you're in the server that has the add-on blockland stores the relation between the file name (used in the datablock) and the file hash (used in cache). Now just find where it stores that... and you can grab add-ons with a few clicks

private add ons become a problem when blackmail and stealing and money becomes involved, if you ask me

private add ons become a problem when blackmail and stealing and money becomes involved, if you ask me
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sorry zealott but i have evidence you hack
give me the add-on for free or i'll post it all over the forums
and even if you give me the add-on i'lll post it anyways!

I think having mods fit for a specific server is fine, and if those aren't released, generally it's not a big deal. I personally would only do this if the mod(s) in question were of large enough scale and required non-intuitive or 'not particularly user-friendly' setup. Or if it was just a bad idea to release it.

As for private mods, I think they should only exist when they're not of sufficient quality or of potentially controversial nature, and so an open release doesn't make sense. Keeping it private just to make people jealous is stupid and childish.

Nowadays, I prefer releasing mods and try to comment code to make it understandable for others to learn, as that's how I learned.



So only the personal add-ons you want should be released?
What if they made that vehicle FOR the server?
What I meant was, if it's a vehicle/weapon, yeah release it at somepoint, but if it's a server specific script, then do what you please with it.

I think personal add-ons are bad. People say that they're for server appeal but seriously, why does having your server 100% full matter that much? Users play whatever they want to. Having a personal add-on for your own little 'fanclub' and to collect players is idiocy. All finished addons should be public.
You sound like you are just pissed that you weren't given a sepcific personal/private add-on
What if I made a sandvich and took in into my classroom
do I have to give pieces from that sandvich to every single classmate I have just because we are in the same class? That is dump, and I bet you wouldn't do that
I also bet if you had made a private add-on you would just brag about it and never give it to anyone.

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Having a personal add-on for your own little 'fanclub' and to collect players is idiocy.
Honestly, that is just plain handicapped. So you mean, than if there is an add-on that not every server is hosting, that the ones that DO have it are considered a fan-club.
And who the forget is collecting players? You can't say that players play where they want, and then say that if you play a server alot then you are a 'fan-boy' and got collected.
And anyways, nobody is talking about full playerlist here. It's not even about popularity in most cases, it's just to make the server more enjoyable for players.

Your argument is invalid.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 04:16:28 PM by SgtDaemon »

I think personal add-ons are bad. People say that they're for server appeal but seriously, why does having your server 100% full matter that much? Users play whatever they want to. Having a personal add-on for your own little 'fanclub' and to collect players is idiocy. All finished addons should be public.
Oh look, it's Captain Entitlement again, complaining about how many of the world's add-ons aren't available for his use. Better go out and make sure the sky isn't being knocked down by all these flying pigs.

Honestly, I'm not sure drawing the line between personal and private is sufficient. Like what if one person creates an add-on specifically for another person's server? Not made by the host -> boot it out the door? What about in Elm's case, where he commissioned bricks for his server?

I think the safest policy would be "If you got your hands on it, you're free to give it to whomever you like." WOULD be, if not for the ability to go fishing around in the cache to get the content files of other add-ons, or in the case of bricks, nearly the entire add-on.

This type of mindset makes me feel like I am required to release any brick pack I make, whether or not it is finished, all because some admin on these forums "doesn't believe in that stuff".

As such, it actually damages my desire to create further bricks for Blockland.

I don't care about players reaching into the cache and grabbing the files, I know there is no way around that, but players uploading the bricks to the official forums without my permission and not being punished pisses me off, I'd prefer that I have full control over my add-ons to do whatever I please with it, along with protection from higher authority if it gets out of hand.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 11:14:02 AM by Conservative »

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Violate it and I call the cops to stick up a baton in your butt.

I believe that personal add-ons that work really well with a specific server is a good thing. For instance, scripts like boss coins and titles on pecon's really should be kept unreleased since it's one of the little things that make the server more unique.
General all-purpose bricks that you actively use in your build, on the other hand, will get some people hyped up and really pissed off if they find out these bricks will only be ever used on that specific build. Elm's (phydeoux's) trees, for example. They really are useful for quite a lot of things, and seeing as we lack good tree bricks that are available for download, it will make a lot of people unhappy.
That's my views on the matter

I believe that personal add-ons that work really well with a specific server is a good thing. For instance, scripts like boss coins and titles on pecon's really should be kept unreleased since it's one of the little things that make the server more unique.
General all-purpose bricks that you actively use in your build, on the other hand, will get some people hyped up and really pissed off if they find out these bricks will only be ever used on that specific build. Elm's (phydeoux's) trees, for example. They really are useful for quite a lot of things, and seeing as we lack good tree bricks that are available for download, it will make a lot of people unhappy.
That's my views on the matter
"I don't have them so that makes me unhappy, HMPH"

Private add-ons are okay, to an extent.

If players really want the content from a server, they should be able to recieve the content, however the main files it takes to run said server should be kept private. Things like guns, bricks, all that should be released, but most other things should stay private.

Private add-ons are okay, to an extent.

If players really want the content from a server, they should be able to recieve the content, however the main files it takes to run said server should be kept private. Things like guns, bricks, all that should be released, but most other things should stay private.
It's certainly nice when people release content from their servers, but it shouldn't be required or expected of them.

I believe that personal add-ons that work really well with a specific server is a good thing. For instance, scripts like boss coins and titles on pecon's really should be kept unreleased since it's one of the little things that make the server more unique.
General all-purpose bricks that you actively use in your build, on the other hand, will get some people hyped up and really pissed off if they find out these bricks will only be ever used on that specific build. Elm's (phydeoux's) trees, for example. They really are useful for quite a lot of things, and seeing as we lack good tree bricks that are available for download, it will make a lot of people unhappy.
That's my views on the matter

aka: entitlement.