https://thedaywefightback.org - more internet protesting

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many companies are teaming up with them but no big names are heard, just small time forgettable companies.

well like tumblr is owned by yahoo

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[Night Fox]

topkek
you do realize who creates and enforces laws right?

they would have to put you on trial
they can't just throw you in jail because they want to
and you can't just put someone on trial without a legitimate charge against them

So you would consider watching research as suspicious? Have you read anything about the program to use the research viewing habits of high ranking officials to manipulate them? Do you consider this a noble and just cause?

no, I haven't, because I don't read conspiracy theory sites

The difference between the wolf and the sheep.

there's no way you're being serious right now

So what you're saying is the American government is and will never be the least bit corrupt.
cool story bro
my point with the executions and genocide argument was basically that all the bad things governments have done throughout history have pretty much been made possible by the apathy of people like you

not really, it was made possible by the charisma and/or military power of a dictator
it isn't that I don't care about the government doing something wrong. it's that I don't care about the government doing something that helps to catch criminals, considering the fact that I'm not a criminal, so it doesn't have any relation to me

I laughed, you're basically implying government is not corrupt in this post.

if it was really as bad as you clearly think, nobody would know who edward snowden is

[sir dooble]

Point is taking out investigations against innocents without any reasonable cause was one of the things the people who made this country wanted to prevent. Also invading someone's piracy is immoral. It also leads to more and more corrupt government but I know you're all going to shout "slippery slope fallacy" so you can forget that one.

These are good views, and based on fair and honest assumptions and worries. You should've said this first. It's easier to respect these points than your previous 2 posts.

I will agree that I think invading privacy is immoral.
My view however is that a government isn't duty bound to abide by morals, but rather to protect their country. And the invasion of privacy in order to protect is acceptable. They have so much work to do that they couldn't possibly trapse through all info for the more petty and intimate details of un-dangerous individuals. And should they look at that info in detail for whatever reason then they would have no use for it. The government has no time to blackmail individuals and no purpose.

On the point about the founding fathers, I don't think that is a fair view on this. Those founders never anticipated the size their nation would grow too, nor the dangers to face it or the difficulty in detecting them. If we had a time machine I am sure that the founding fathers would be more disgusted at the dangers the country faces than the tactics used to protect it.
Sticking to traditional values is fine and it's good to remember and respect them, but they shouldn't be used to dictate action in a world that is no longer as simple.

On the view of corruption, I don't think this leads to it. I also don't think that corruption to an extent where blackmail of the public is used, or a big brother state is possible in your country. The government is constantly scrutinised by the people and the government itself. The government would be legally ousted before they could do any damage.

sorry for slow reply(ies), on tablet now

[Georges]

Is it just a coincidence that today is "Safer Internet Day" according to google?

[DrenDran]

they would have to put you on trial
they can't just throw you in jail because they want to
and you can't just put someone on trial without a legitimate charge against them

Yes they can?
It's unconstutional but it's not impossible lol.
What about the Japanese internment camps during world war 2, or our offshore detention centers we still have today?

no, I haven't, because I don't read conspiracy theory sites

While it would have been nice if he provided sources to back such a claim up, it's not like it'd surprise me that much if it was true.

it was made possible by the charisma and/or military power of a dictator

You wot mate?
How does simply being charismatic make things happen?
You have to use that charisma to convince people like you that you're not corrupt.

it isn't that I don't care about the government doing something wrong. it's that I don't care about the government doing something that helps to catch criminals, considering the fact that I'm not a criminal, so it doesn't have any relation to meif it was really as bad as you clearly think, nobody would know who edward snowden is

"Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security."

[Ignotus]

I haven't, because I don't read conspiracy theory sites

Conspiracy theory sites like the huffington post?

It takes a special sort of complacent to be in your mind-set, congratulations.

[Blockzillahead]

well like tumblr is owned by yahoo

is yahoo on the list? because i think tumblr is ran by a different division even if its owned by yahoo

[Ignotus]

The government has no time to blackmail individuals and no purpose.

With this sentence you imply that any purpose is a just purpose.

[Ravencroften]

Huffington Post is a bunch of wacko liberals trying too hard to intrigue their viewers by exaggerating certain situations to a point of nonsense.

[Mustango]

Humans are animals. Animals think only about themselves and their young. Not about others. Which is why if you tell a human "Your googles are being watched 24/7" they will get freaked out and complain. The moment the Internet is not under government monitoring, there will probably be a large scale hacking attack, that will later be followed by a terrorist attack, which will probably kill 2x more than the total quantity of the people that voted the internet not be monitored by the government. Ignorant bitches.

Rule one of terrorism: Don't use the internet to communicate.

The internet is monitored for a reason. It should stay that way. I'm pretty sure the government doesn't care what category of research you look at.

[Ignotus]

Huffington Post is a bunch of wacko liberals trying too hard to intrigue their viewers by exaggerating certain situations to a point of nonsense.

And yet no matter what source I could link to you, you'll say the same thing. You've already said you don't want to know, so this post pretty much just follows that rut. Why are you still in this thread if you don't want to know?

Are you trying to convince us that we shouldn't want to know either?

[DrenDran]

Huffington Post is a bunch of wacko liberals trying too hard to intrigue their viewers by exaggerating certain situations to a point of nonsense.

I'm not a liberal (i guess you could figure that out) so the fact that every other article seems to be about how some homoloveual person accomplished an otherwise everyday task kinda turns me off the site.

But there doesn't seem to be anything glaringly incorrect in that article.

[Night Fox]

Yes they can?
It's unconstutional but it's not impossible lol.
What about the Japanese internment camps during world war 2, or our offshore detention centers we still have today?

why are you comparing the morals of the 40s to the ones we have now?
and innocent people definitely aren't sent to whatever offshore detention centers you're talking about

You wot mate?
How does simply being charismatic make things happen?
You have to use that charisma to convince people like you that you're not corrupt.

I think you're just trying really hard to find some way to disagree with that because I didn't even imply that the fact of having charisma alone was what made them rise to power
p.s. having my stuff recorded and then never looked at again isn't giving up any liberties

Conspiracy theory sites like the huffington post?
It takes a special sort of complacent to be in your mind-set, congratulations.

did you read that? the huffington post is blowing the love thing up on purpose. there are three other reasons listed. a certain few thought that research would be helpful in discrediting them. just because it has the capability to be abused doesn't mean that you should trash the entire thing

[Ignotus]

just because it has the capability to be abused doesn't mean that you should trash the entire thing

Why not?

You're acting like a battered wife to your clearly corrupted government. The posts of you and Ravencroft just scream insecure; you both seem like you're trying harder to convince yourselves that "everything is going to be ok" than actually participate in a discussion.

[xSetrox]

I honestly don't care, they legally can't take any action against what we search due to privacy laws.