Jack Buckby - conservative waste of space

[Kearn]

yeah honestly i dont want to argue with kearn because its not going to change how i think or how he thinks and its just gonna cause stuff i dont wanna deal with so im gonna not press further against him

winner award for going through an entire debate and ending it without using a single cheap insult im actually impressed

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[Char]

no same love marriage isnt permitted regardless of who you are and who you like

okay, and why should it not be permitted?
secular reason required

[Nikolan]

winner award for going through an entire debate and ending it without using a single cheap insult im actually impressed

cheap insult

what

literally all i said there was that we both think differently about things and theres no point in trying to change that

why do you try so hard to make people look like they're being stufftier than they really are lol

[Kearn]

okay, and why should it not be permitted?
secular reason required

i havent made any argument for it to be permitted or prohibited in this thread

cheap insult

what

literally all i said there was that we both think differently about things and theres no point in trying to change that

why do you try so hard to make people look like they're being stufftier than they really are lol

no im saying im surprised youre civil since i frequently debate with people who start flinging insults with little/no provocation

[Donro98]

Kearn, while literally they have the same rights, opposite love marriage is only wanted by straight people, and is not very relevant to gay people. Gay people do not have the right to marry someone they are loveually attracted to, like straight people do. 

[dorkdotdan]

While I would normally agree with Kearn that there is a lot of "majority guilt" causing some reverse racism/loveism in the US, I think that gay marriage hasn't been totally resolved yet.

[Nikolan]

no im saying im surprised youre civil since i frequently debate with people who start flinging insults with little/no provocation

oh im sorry i misread

but yeah when i really do debate something insulting people does nothing except make people more tense and likelier to not listen to you so i dont do it

[Kearn]

Kearn, while literally they have the same rights, opposite love marriage is only wanted by straight people, and is not very relevant to gay people. Gay people do not have the right to marry someone they are loveually attracted to, like straight people do.  

well neither do zoophiliacs and child enthusiasts

While I would normally agree with Kearn that there is a lot of "majority guilt" causing some reverse racism/loveism in the US, I think that gay marriage hasn't been totally resolved yet.

well it definitely doesn't help when federal judges are throwing out state constitutional amendments under the equal protection clause when there's no legal discrimination being done

oh im sorry i misread

but yeah when i really do debate something insulting people does nothing except make people more tense and likelier to not listen to you so i dont do it

i try to keep it civil but its hard not to get dragged down into a mud pit when someone starts going off the rails and won't let you go until you eventually have some third/forth/fifty third party come along and resolve the entire argument in 4 posts

[ZombiLoin]

well neither do zoophiliacs and child enthusiasts

well it definitely doesn't help when federal judges are throwing out state constitutional amendments under the equal protection clause when there's no legal discrimination being done

except that zoophiliacs and child enthusiasts aren't allowed to marry the people they're attracted to because it's impossible to get loveual consent because they're either unable to speak or because they're underaged.

[Planr]

Have you actually even read the quran before op.

It provides specific commands for muslims to commit acts of terrorism against non-mulisms (Infidels)
maybe this will help make it more clear to you that islam and judeo-christian based cultures such as the UK are incompatible
i mean look at all of the problems they have over there with muslims committing terrorism

jack buckby is right

here are some verses for you

[Nikolan]

Have you actually even read the quran before op.

It provides specific commands for muslims to commit acts of terrorism against non-mulisms (Infidels)

here are some verses for you

the bible says some pretty harsh stuff too, but i dont see people stoning others because the bible said to. much the same as people don't follow acts of terrorism just cause its in the quran

[Char]

i havent made any argument for it to be permitted or prohibited in this thread

well you say it's not permitted
but some states DO permit it, and there have been laws that were attempted to be passed (I think some of them passed), so now there are actually states denying this right...
And even then, marriage is usually between people who love each other. The right is being denied to people who love and want to marry a person of the same love.

Kearn, while literally they have the same rights, opposite love marriage is only wanted by straight people, and is not very relevant to gay people. Gay people do not have the right to marry someone they are loveually attracted to, like straight people do. 

Holy stuff I almost misread that post three times
I was about to post a long rant but then I reread it

well neither do zoophiliacs and child enthusiasts

Well for one, other animals can't give informed consent to the human. Even if the human is the one being forgeted (I have no idea how that would work), severe injury can occur merely because the two animals would be so anatomically different. But if it's between two humans, it's much safer.

And for child enthusiasts, children are underdeveloped beings, both in bones and in physical maturity. They are also under the age of consent, and probably not ready for love anyway.

[Zanaran2]

excellent
this thread is now about dogloving

[Planr]

the bible says some pretty harsh stuff too, but i dont see people stoning others because the bible said to. much the same as people don't follow acts of terrorism just cause its in the quran

thats because the commands of violence you see in the bible are old testament law that was commanded for a specific frame of time and against specific individuals. the old testaments commandments are done away with thanks to the coming of Jesus Christ.

meanwhile, the violence prescribed in the quran has no set time period for ceasing, and is "quran-ically" commanded for muslims to carry out today.

[DrenDran]

it should be up to the consumer, not the producer, whether someone buys their product

What?
No.
If I want to buy your computer, you have a right to say "no i need that you cant buy it".
It's the store owners property, if he doesn't want to allow someone on it, he should have to. He doesn't even need to specify a reason. Maybe he doesn't allow people with tatoos to shop in his store. Maybe he doesn't allow christains to enter his fedora emporium. There's nothing wrong with this, it is just capitalism.